Politics The 2020 US Presidential Election

Weird mix of voters.

Cubans who tend to be anti-government, i.e. conservative.

Geezers who want their SS and Medicare protected,
but also want their money protected from taxation.
Yet expect the government to provide aid after hurricanes.

 

I'm sticking with Friday.

But things could turn ugly. In an extremely close race the loser could make legal challenges that drag this shit out forever.

For months Trump has been laying the groundwork for "fraud." Of course if he wins a by a razor thin margin all is good. But if he loses by the same margin it's voting fraud by the Democrats.

It seems that one of the major delays is mail-in ballots. Tallying those votes is tedious under the best circumstances, but I'm now wondering if the intentional cuts by the USPS have indeed affected voting.



The current news report show the Electoral College at
224 Biden, 213 Trump.

 

why do they not count mail in ballotts as they come in? why wait til the last day? That makes no since to me

 

NBC showed the recount procedures for the remaining states. Under the right circumstances--unlikely, but it could happen--it could be Nov 29th before we have a final count.

Biden 227, Trump 213. The problem is all it would take is one big state for Trump to jump ahead.

It looks Biden might take enough small states for the win.

It looks like Trump could take a big state and a few small ones for the win.


Folks, start hoping that your candidate takes the respective close votes state by more than a 1% margin. That would save a lot of time.


I hope Biden reaches 270+ clearly, to make recounts moot. But we all know Trump will have a shit fit even if he no doubt loses.

 

With the current standing of called states Biden has 253 and The Impeached 45 has 214.
NC and Georgia look pretty good as going to 45.
Alaska sadly is garunteed for him.
That puts him at 248.
Pennsylvania is still very much up in the air.
It looks like Nevada and Arizona are going to Uncle Joe.
That puts him at exactly 270.
If Pennsylvania goes to Joe he's well over.
If it goes to The Impeached 45, Biden still wins but by only 1 point.

And people say it's not worth it to vote.

 

Yes, voting is important. Except I vote in Texas, and you vote in Alaska. My presidential vote was a waste (big margin), and so were my senate votes (very slim margins). At least at the state & local level a few democrats won.

I'm looking forward to the various analysis, after we have a certain winner.

 

if trump looses, the whole country will be watching him to see how he reacts.

this is just dragging out but it is 2020 who i should expect that.

I know here in GA they are saying that it may be suday before all the ballots are counted.
I do know that they found a trash bag full of mail in ballotts in a dumpster behind one of the biggest polling places in fulton county (county city of atlanta is in for the most part) so who knows,.

 

why do some channels say biden has 264 and others have him with 263

 

Can someone explain Maine and Nebraska to me...

Seems like the states are split into different electoral votes. How in the hell does that work?

 

Has that been confirmed??
I would not be a bit surprised if Trump supporters* who work for USPS, or the group in charge of counting ballots, tried to throw away mail-in ballots coming from known Blue areas.

* Obviously Biden supporters could pull a similar stunt to favor Biden. But the thing is Trump supporters are the more visible and vocal, and "their president" encourages and condones questionable actions. Being painted with the same brush isn't fair, but you are judged by the company you keep.

 

That's a very good question. I'm going to do some checking.

Edit:
I can't find the 263 count now, but I did see it yesterday.


Some sources are giving Biden Arizona, others aren't. If Biden wins AZ, and Nevada, that will put him at 270.


Trump wants to stop counting in states where he leads, recounts in states where he narrowly lost, and claims fraud in states where he trails. That sounds like desperation to me. Oh, since he appears to gaining in AZ of course the voting there is just fine.


We're going to need the state courts, and most likely the Supreme Court (even if by passive consent), to do the right thing.


Declared winner today or tomorrow?
Official winner early December?

 

My conspiracy theory is that they are deliberately slowing down the count. OK, they do have a valid excuse that they want to wait for all of the mail-in ballots and the provisional ballots to get fixed, however my theory is that if they slow down the outcome, that it won't be as upsetting and massive protests could be avoided when the results do come in... Although it is annoying to have to wait this long and maybe it won't even be today when we know the outcome.

 

That makes since, but my next question is what determines the areas for each electoral vote?

 

you mean the house of representatives?


so hypothetically speaking if i wanted GA to be that way, we have 16 electoral votes. does that mean that GA would be split into 16 areas and each area get one vote?
and i would have to go to the house and propose a change to making it that way?

 

Yes, each state gets 1 vote per congressional district and 2 statewide senate votes. So GA would have 14 areas and then 2 state wide electoral college votes. I don't know what the election outcome would be if every state did it that way, but I would guess it would be close to the outcome of the house and senate added together.

My next conspiracy theory is that the media loves the attention of a dragged out count. They are pushing the counties to take some time off, and don't release the results at 4am...