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Politics The Marginalization of Ron Paul (or How Media Plays Favorites)

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by Derwood, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. Eddie Getting Tilted

    :cool:
     
  2. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    Three gorgeous talented chicks or a fucking backwoods suck ass guitar playing nutcase waving a gun around in the air?

    Easy prey are not that difficult to spot. Aim and shoot.
     
  3. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Very Tilted

    Location:
    Yucatan, Mexico
    I'm not sure about the suck ass guitar player part but I really don't care if you act well and draw a big box office, manage to throw a ball through a hoop on a consistent basis or play a musical instrument well... none of these things mean I should give a crap about what you think politically. Running around the country and telling the POTUS to suck on your Mac-10 has nothing to do with your musical talent. It just means you're an idiot in my opinion.

    Much like listening to Mr. Pauls answers and thinking "yeah, hell yeah! Man that guy is so right about everything." You peel away his answers to questions on most subject and it's basically something like- "How exactly would you go about getting rid of the IRS?" "We'd just do it, Problem solved... next question." Simple answers to complex problems should concern people... again just my opinion.
     
  4. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I don't mind if celebrities voice their political opinions, though I'd prefer not to hear them when I've paid a $125 ticket to hear something else.

    And I definitely don't want to hear them from an asshole.....anywhere.

    The old fart can still play a pretty mean guitar. I was just feeling bitchy when I wrote that. :)
    --- merged: Nov 18, 2011 6:42 AM ---
    It sounds so easy being you. Can I be you for a while? You can be my dog while I'm being you. That sound ok?
     
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  5. Fangirl

    Fangirl Very Tilted

    Location:
    Arizona
    I dunno. It is wince-inducing to hear the slurs (literally) against your sitting President, against Mr. Obama. I understand why Terrible Ted can still sell tickets. (He must be a million years old.) He's a showman. He makes a good living off of 'firing blanks from his machine gun in the air'.
    I know about Natalie Maines (of the Dixie Chicks) as well. Her awkward statement hurt their career in the short term. I think she didn't even fully understand why the conservatives went ape-nuts about it. Maines later stated that she thought essentially, that her freedom of speech rights as an American, extended to France.
    It feels to me as someone who has lived as a Canadian here since I was a kid that the United States of America has somehow allowed itself to fray at the edges. I guess I'm bemoaning the lack of civility in general and specifically toward an office which used to be revered--at times--like it was above the very worst of the fray--at least as it applied to your presidents as men, as human beings. No longer.
     
  6. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    It's a testament to how short people's memories are...
     
  7. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Very Tilted

    Location:
    Yucatan, Mexico
    I don't think it's a problem of short memories so much as flat out hypocrisy.
     
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  8. Eddie Getting Tilted

    I'm not sure you're cut out for these Colorado winters. You sound like city folk to me.
     
  9. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I was a bit surprised to find out that her comment about Bush was widely considered here in the US to be a general diss of America. I've lived here all my life and never knew that sort of thing was so frowned upon by some. But I still suspect that if she'd been dissing a Democratic president, the loud voices that so condemned her would have been silent.

    I'm a mix of the two and I'd love to see Colorado one day. It's on my bucket list.
     
  10. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    I was being polite.
     
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  11. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Very Tilted

    Location:
    Yucatan, Mexico
    Freaking Canadians.
     
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  12. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    I knew there was cordinated effort by the right wing nut jobs to take over the Internet and keep spreading their hate. And now, here is a video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGB8Uuffi4M
     
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  13. Eddie Getting Tilted

    An email I just received from Ron Paul:

    If you missed Tuesday night’s debate on CNN, there’s something you need to know.

    All seven of my opponents stood up on stage and applauded Big Government - asked for more of it, in fact.

    So your choice is clear.

    With just over five weeks left until voters begin going to the polls, if you want a President who will FIGHT for less government and lower spending, then I must ask for your support right away.

    You see, Newt Gingrich – who previously warned of the dangers of the Patriot Act - now wants it expanded.

    He wants amnesty, too – to keep American citizens footing the bill for government services for illegal immigrants.

    The others were falling all over themselves to launch more undeclared TRILLION-dollar wars on Iran, or perhaps Pakistan, or maybe even Syria
    .

    Of course, they all want more military spending, even though we’re already spending almost one TRILLION dollars per year – an amount nearly equal to what the entire rest of the world spends!

    But that certainly hasn’t stopped the chicken-little stories from my opponents about supposed “defense cuts”!

    Even Mitt Romney tried to pull the wool over our eyes.

    I set him straight. NOTHING is being cut in Washington. PERIOD.

    Believe me, I’ve tried!

    All Congress is arguing about is how much to increase spending.

    But when hundreds of billions of dollars just aren’t “enough” for my opponents’ favorite agencies, their answer is to howl in pain.

    Isn’t this the game the liberals play?

    I guess we’ve learned to expect as much over the years from them.

    But isn’t it downright disgusting when Republican candidates for President stoop to that level?

    After all, we’re over $15 TRILLION in debt.

    When are my opponents going to get serious?

    Unfortunately, that’s exactly what’s lacking in these debates so far – seriousness.

    And that’s why the establishment of BOTH parties is so scared of me.

    You see, they know I am serious about balancing the budget in three years.

    They know I will cut ONE TRILLION in spending my first year.

    And they know NONE of their sacred cows are safe.

    If we don’t need it or can’t afford it, it doesn’t matter what department of government we’re talking about
    .

    Sure, the establishment will scream and holler that we need MORE money to keep our country safe.

    But the simple fact is, if we had a constitutional foreign policy – and if we stopped nation-building and policing the world - our nation would be much safer and spend much LESS money at the same time.

    Our troops understand that fact.

    That’s why I’ve received more money from members of the military than all of my Republican opponents COMBINED.

    But sadly, my establishment opponents just don’t seem to get it.

    They want more spending, more government, and more debt.

    You and I both know we can’t afford politics as usual any longer.

    You and I both know maintaining the big spending, Big Government status quo will only lead to our nation’s ruin.

    But I’m the ONE candidate who is serious about fixing our problems.

    I’m the ONE candidate who will change our foreign policy to strengthen our national defense while ending these wars.

    I’m the ONE candidate who will fight to end welfare to illegal immigrants AND secure our border.

    And I’m the ONE candidate who will take power BACK from government, not scream to give more to it.
     
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  14. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    This from the hypocrite who runs for office year after year as a Republican because he knows he can't get elected as a third party candidate.

    But I'm sure it was nice to get an email from someone asking you for money, who seems to know you so well.
     
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  15. Eddie Getting Tilted

    It sure was. It's always nice to hear from Dr. Paul.
     
  16. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    Let me know how many emails you receive from him once he's dropped out of the primaries.
     
  17. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    I suspect Paul will hang around to the last primary in June, much like '08.

    I think he will get more delegates to the convention than the 30 or s0 he got in '08 (primarily from caucus states) because of the new rules the Republicans have in place this time around that prohibit winner take all primaries before April, but still in third or fourth place.

    Unlike 08, when McCain had the nomination won (enough delegates) after super Tuesday in March (when all put Paul effectively dropped out), this time around, I would expect 3-4 candidates to hang around through the full primary season.

    Given the anyone-but-Romney tone of more than half of the Republican party, it is even possible that Romney will come to the convention with the most delegates, but not enough delegates to win the nomination, something we havent seen in years.

    Paul is not gonna win. Thats a given. But he might be in a position to be more of a power broker this time around.
     
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  18. Derwood

    Derwood Slightly Tilted

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Not only is Paul not going to win, but even if he somehow became President, he wouldn't get ANY of his agenda passed through congress. You think they're stonewalling Obama, you would see a record set for number of bills NOT passed in congress with Paul's agenda
     
  19. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I guess you'll need to keep your wallet out then, Eddie.
     
  20. samcol

    samcol Getting Tilted

    Location:
    indiana
    i've been following him since about 07. he at least sends out 2-3+ emails a week even when he's not campaigning, many of which are his actual words. and after his last election he used the money to set up the campaign for liberty to inform people about legislation and other matters.
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    im not sure about that. when a president wins he has the will of the people behind him for at least a few months to a year or more. a paul win would mean people want smaller government, and many people in congress would of gotten into office under a similar premise. so i think it's very likely he would get some things done.

    i think you might see a record number of bills not passed because he wouldn't sign them. congress knows paul, and would be forced to work with him if they ever wanted to get a budget or anything else passed. the thought of not having anything new legislation passed is kind of appealing though.

    when i look at the last 10 years of legislation its been a lot of spending, bailouts, wars and trampling on the bill of rights. i dont look back any see any laws off the type of my head that make me think they were a good idea.