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Occupy Wall Street

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by Willravel, Sep 25, 2011.

  1. Alistair Eurotrash

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    Interesting, Cyn. I am coming to admire the New Yorkers for the way they are handling this (protesters and locals).
     
  2. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    Alistair, we live in tight quarters here. Everyone has to deal with more than just themselves and think about more than just themselves. Some parts of NYC are very close knit communities like Battery Park City, Coop Village, Peter Cooper Village, Stuyvesant Town. These are very large anchor buildings with many apartments but it's very neighborly. Everyone seems to know everyone. You'll see people walking the streets waving at each other and stopping to chat.

    We try to take care of our own, those that are here for whatever reason, we tend to joke about some of them being BnT'ers (That's everyone else who doesn't live in Manhattan and has to take a Bridge or a Tunnel to get here.) So while the drum circle person who thought it's funny to shout out 4 hours when the compromise was 2, it's probably a fair compromise since not everyone sleeps during the night, some people work the evening or graveyard shift.

    We have many NGOs here, in my neighborhood alone, there's lots of NGO services that it's incredible.
     
  3. Eddie Getting Tilted

    Just a wee bit of food for thought. Liberals are always talking about the royal "we" as in all humans..."we are the world" kind of stuff. So where is their perspective?

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Derwood

    Derwood Slightly Tilted

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    99% of the world's population is starving and living in huts?

    [citation needed]
     
  5. Eddie Getting Tilted

    Americans are the 1%, globally speaking.
     
  6. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    Right, because the EU is not the biggest economy on this planet.
     
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  7. Eddie Getting Tilted

    Huh? What does that have to do with the American population being in the top 1% as opposed to the rest of the world's population being in the 99%?
     
  8. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    Because you're not the top 1%? If anything, you're simply part of the top 1% next to the many wealthy Europeans, Australians, Chinese, Russians, Indians, Japanese and Arabs.
     
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  9. Alistair Eurotrash

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    And it's a lot more than 1%.

    There is a disparity and inequality between the first world and the third world. No question.

    That isn't an argument for increased inequality anywhere, though.
     
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  10. Eddie Getting Tilted

    Nope.

    From a recent Washington Post article:

    "Branko Milanovic, lead economist for the World Bank research group, sent me this comparative analysis based on household income or consumption surveys worldwide, adjusted for purchasing power differences. Those at the 34th percentile of income in the United States are at the 90th percentile globally, and those at the 50th percentile in the United States are at the 93rd percentile globally. Even the very poorest Americans — those at the 2nd percentile of income in the United States — are at the 62nd percentile globally."
     
  11. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    That quote tells you nothing about how the EU ranks next to the US. Australian households spend a lot on average as well. And don't forget the Russian oligarchs.
     
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  12. Eddie Getting Tilted

    That quote tells you where the majority of Americans rank in world economic status. We're at the tippy top.
     
  13. Bodkin van Horn

    Bodkin van Horn One of the Four Horsewomyn of the Fempocalypse

    Another successful distraction...

    Look! Eddie is pretending to care about the plight of poor nonwhites!

    Clearly OWS is wrong for protesting against excessive corporate influence on United States political processes. You know how I know they're wrong? Because of global poverty. Logic. In your face.

    I wonder how the average OWS protestor feels about the kind of unchecked capitalism that at best is indifferent to global poverty, and at worst actively contributes to and exploits global poverty?
     
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  14. Eddie Getting Tilted

    Kind of does make you think twice about the OWS mantra of "we are the 99%" though, doesn't it?
     
  15. Alistair Eurotrash

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    Frankly, no.
     
  16. Bodkin van Horn

    Bodkin van Horn One of the Four Horsewomyn of the Fempocalypse

    Nope. Because I understand what it means.
     
  17. Eddie Getting Tilted

    hmpf, well....
     
  18. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Someone moved the goal posts so they could score on the straw man goalkeeper....

    It would be cute if it weren't so annoying.
     
  19. Derwood

    Derwood Slightly Tilted

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    If you're a poor starving American (but other people in the world are starving a little bit more) then you have NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN
     
  20. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    Recognizing that there are people in the world who face daily deprivations far worse than the 99% of Americans, it is not the OWS movement that is opposed to spending 1% of the budget on foreign economic (non military) and humanitarian aid. That would be the Ron Paul crowd and the Tea Party.