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Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by pan6467, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. redux

    redux Very Tilted

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    What part of my post did you not understand?
     
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  2. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    The thing is that in the Midwest/South/Mountain West, they still need to get lots of votes from white males and conservative females. While it is a good thing that they are running and aren't slacking off like has been done for the past 38 years, and there is a chance that they will get people debating the local issues more, I still worry that left wing voters won't show up for this midterm.

    In my district, there will be at least 30,000 people voting for Republicans in each election. But, the most Democrats who voted in this district in 2008 was 22,000. It was closer to 16,000 in the 2014 midterm.
     
  3. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  4. redux

    redux Very Tilted

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    The Teens Who Survived the Florida School Shooting Are Organizing a National March to Demand Gun Control

    Just days ago, teenagers hid in the closets of their classrooms and saw their classmates, friends and beloved teachers die when a former student opened fire with an AR-15 at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla.

    Now, these teenagers, most of whom are not old enough to vote yet, are organizing a march in Washington, D.C. and in other cities around the country on March 24 to call for stricter gun control legislation to prevent yet another mass shooting — at a school or elsewhere — from happening in the United States.

    “My message for the people in office is this: You’re either with us or against us,” Cameron Kasky, a junior at the high school and organizer, told CNN on Sunday morning. “We are losing our lives while the adults are playing around.” ...<more>

    Here’s the speech from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student Emma Gonzalez


    View: https://twitter.com/JoshuaChavers/status/964935557318152192


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    March for Our Lives

    "On March 24, the kids and families of March For Our Lives will take to the streets of Washington DC to demand that their lives and safety become a priority and that we end gun violence and mass shootings in our schools today.

    March with us in Washington DC or march in your own community. On March 24, the collective voices of the March For Our Lives movement will be heard..."
     
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  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    It isn't "what" is happening...

    It's that we're ALLOWING to happen.

    Why do we all allow these things to occur??
     
  6. redux

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    Trump's plan to respond to the opioid epidemic:

    [​IMG]

    Trump claims he’ll end drug addiction with some ‘great commercials’
    Trump's plan to address the opioid epidemic is mostly just TV commercials and the death penalty.

    Great idea.......treat it as a public relations problem and a criminal justice problem, not a health problem! :eek:
     
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  7. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  8. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    I agree that some of the gerrymandering maps are a little out there, but I don't think that it is the reason the Democrats lost 1000 seats since 2010. It isn't even close. And I would expect to see far-left progressives win in the supposedly "safe" blue districts.

    I think a bigger problem is the self-sorting of people moving to where they want to live, and they are looking into the politics and laws in the states/cities that they are moving to. I have a high school reunion coming up this year, and I would guess that of the 300 that graduated, 290 moved away to a different place. And my hometown isn't that bad, but it isn't a great place to be as a single person in your 20's.
     
  9. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Opinion | Politicians Don’t Need New Ideas

    I disagree with the last note, politicians don't need new ideas or "good" ideas.
    They need to DO THE RIGHT THING and act.

    They should know by now what to do to help ALL citizens...and the nation.
    But no, they cater to radicals and agendas and money.
    Whatever gets them elected.

    If they're cunning enough...they can get elected and still do the right thing and spin it so they keep getting elected.
    Come on...you know what the right thing is.
     
  10. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Lots of openings, fewer raises — The current U.S. labor market puzzle

    The easy answer is that companies and management got used to low wages during the Great Recession.
    And while they're willing to hire to get a job done
    Doesn't mean that they've gotten used to paying more for it.

    They want to keep "productivity" high...but this doesn't translate into giving more per hour.
    Every angle you can think of is done to minimize this.
    Including using salaried positions to get over 40 hrs per week.
    Allowing "outside" work to happen without paying for it.
    Using contracted positions
    And so on...

    As a matter of fact, this was like the same mindset that existed before WWII, where wages were standardized.
    Anything to decrease the cost...no matter the impact to people.

    Now I'm a capitalist...and I understand the need to minimize cost and increase productivity
    but much mgmt keeps a short term mindset, without investing into their people and morale.

    The companies that do "get it" and are rated the best places to work at...see their margins increase significantly.
    So it shows it's worth the effort and the profit.

    However, this hasn't translated for the majority of businesses.
    They still keep the wages down...thinking they can get away with it.

    It's slowly changing, especially with help from the Millennials, who value their self-worth and are ambitious.
    But will it ramp up before the next Recession or bubble bursting???
     
  11. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

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    I have heard both sides of the political spectrum blame the other for the racial divide in the country.
    The right blames Obama and BLM.
    The left blames Trump and the Alt-right.

    It looks like Putin's minions have been playing us for fools.
    They knew exactly which scab to pick and went for it full bore.

    We read every one of the 3,517 Facebook ads bought by Russians. Their dominant strategy: Sowing racial discord

     
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  12. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    As someone here previously posted...the US has been meddling in foreign elections for decades (perhaps even centuries).

    The Information Age now provides more options; some (many?) people use the available info to support what they already believe, not to question it, and not to seek the truth. Twisted news is nothing new, it's just much more plentiful these days.

    I'm sure the US is still guilty of affecting foreign elections by any means available. Why wouldn't Russia do the same here?
     
  13. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

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    This is different from meddling in elections.
    This is making us hate each other.
    This is trying to make the country rip apart at the seams.

    Putin did the same thing with Brexit.
    He was also involved with Catalonia.
    Putin is doing everything he can to tear democratic countries apart so he can rebuild the USSR.

    Yep, the US has done crappy, horrible things in the past.
    We might even deserve some of this.
    Our delicate balance has often been at the expense of POC and the unheard so having the Russians destroy that balance has certainly kept the attention on them for good or ill.

    But we need to be aware of what they are doing and fight it.
    We can't just shrug our shoulders.
    This shit can't go on.
     
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  14. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    A lot of US meddling in elections was to try and prevent an extremist or a violent dictator from taking over though. Sometimes it was for anti-capitalist and anti-religious reasons, so that is an issue.

    I want to know how many memes 4chan and conservative media commenters made though as a comparison. I bet it is well over 3 million, so maybe the Russian ads were a small foul in the overall on-line debate. And I don't see that changing for 2019-2020.
     
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  15. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  16. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Merkel-Trump Clashes Push Germany to Watershed Moment With U.S.

    My question is...sure the US has lost trust and influence...but can America ever recover it??? (if the current xenophobic mindset loses power)
    This has disrupted everything.

    And the next question is...forgetting the US benefits & advantages specifically for itself...will this be good or bad for the World overall??

    Empires die, influence wanes
    Rome
    The Mongols
    Portugal
    France
    England
    Germany
    Etc...

    All have controlled and coaxed...then faded to their own locale at least.
    What are cascading effects to ALL?
     
  17. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Feud over civility in politics escalates amid Trump insults

    My problem with this is...one side is shocked and protesting attacks...while allowing their own to attack often...and have been doing so for some time.
    A bully shouldn't be surprised and claim foul...when their targets finally turn on them.

    Trump is one one of the biggest bullies...and one of the loudest cryers.
    Seems the GOP has a short memory of their own loud mouths and aggressive actions.

    Can't claim civility when you have been uncivil.
     
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  18. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    The Russians are coming...The Russians are coming...
    Opinion | Trump and Russia: One Mystery, Three Theories

    Wrong.
    They're here...not the Russian community...they're quite nice. I like their sense of humor and language.
    But the spies...from the Russian government...now THEM, they're in like cockroaches and maggots.

    They've been here for awhile...and when I say here...I mean everywhere globally.
    Electronically, Propaganda and Operations
    A subset that has grown from the old Soviet empire...been reborn under Putin's vision...and the Oligarchs cooperation/complicity.

    It's like some bad James Bond movie...or new Mission Impossible feature.
    They have hacked...and stayed in our computer infrastructure.

    Not places like here, at TFP, we're small beans and not of interest.
    But targets of interest and influence.
    Government, Utilities, Companies, etc...the big guys. Even at your work.
    Attacking daily...slowly whittling away...gaining info, placing mis-information.

    And they're using people and entities...
    It's not just the terrorists...but nation-states with aggressive agendas. China steals, Russia provokes, NK to survive, etc

    Now...don't get all paranoid. But just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
    Like thieves or bad guys...they're not "everywhere" but they may steal your shit or attack you.

    The Russians have become EXPERTS of this all...have the funding, the training, the organization, the mindset. Think of a twisted dark CIA. (and yes, that exists too...we're not innocent)

    Now...
    Question is...how far have they gone. What can they do? And how can we get them the hell out of there...now that we've finally figured out we're infested.

    And is the guy at the top in denial of all the ugly bugs?? Or getting kickbacks from the Pest Removal company? Or did the shit actually put in the bugs himself?? (fuck up your real estate and lifestyle in some bad revenge)

    The Russians are here. They're messing with us. (not JUST the US, but everyone...but their special target is Europe and America)
    What are we going to do about it???

    It's obvious and apparent by now, even to his allies...the president ain't gonna do anything.
    He's going to let those bugs fester and grow.
    Like one of his old-school buildings he owns. (or many businesses...)
     
  19. redux

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    As the right wing nationalist movement continues to grow across Europe, fueled in part by Russia, we're beginning to see the same in the US in the form of Trump-supporting alt-right white nationalist reaching out to Russia.

    Alabama-based League of the South launches Russian-language page to promote 'Southern nationalism'

     
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  20. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    @redux I'd say that news is dumb or I dislike it...but I don't want you dinged for it...you just informed us of the stupidity :confused::mad: