Occupy Wall Street

I wear white half socks with my loafers. I am the 99%.

 

I cannot find any information anywhere, that Propane tanks were confiscated in New York. Only bio-fuel generators as far as I know and only because they were closer than 20 feet to the tarps.
Am I misinformed?

 

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Cyn? If neither you or I have no actual proof of propane tanks being confiscated,
what you are doing right now is called: fear-mongering.
I'm quite upset with you and will leave this thread now, lest I say something uhhh....on the order of flaming.

 

Cyn isn't fear mongering. Is he probably more likely to presumptively side with Bloomberg and his thugs? Sure but no more so than we are to assume the worst of the police. None of us were there, we're all making of it what we will. Fair enough.

 

Perhaps that was their stash of multipurpose Everclear.

 

Every negative rumor about OWS should be assumed true, right? Those folks shouldn't have had perfectly legal basic camping equipment to deal with the cold because, because... the equipment is dangerous. Unlike the projectile that smashed the skull of a Marine peacefully protesting, of course, which was launched either indiscriminately into a crowd at head level or was intentionally targeted at a man's head for the safety of the protesters. Imagine what kind of danger these people would be in if they had generators and heating implements to deal with freezing cold! It's good that we have the militarized police to keep us protesters safe.

 

Yes, the equipment IS dangerous when not used as it is designed and I'm thinking burning anything near a plastic tarp is not safe and burning anything within a tarp is suicide. Dragging the police mishap (from the opposite coast, no less) into that argument is ridiculous-apples and oranges.

 

Ngdawg, they're linked fundamentally. The idea is that the police are overstepping their authority and are abusing people in the name of keeping things safe and clean and orderly, but this has been demonstrated numerous times in numerous locations to be a pretext. Where is the evidence that the OWS protesters were actually in danger from the misuse of generators? What, one image of a tarp that may or may not be in the vicinity of something flammable is incontrovertible evidence they were at risk? Give me a break. Until actual evidence is presented, the logical assumption based on the police reaction to OWS so far is it's at best an exaggeration.

 

Obviously you aren't reading the posts and links inside the posts this one was just above you BTW.

 

White half socks with loafers? Surely, that's a 1% fashion statement. Supported by the fact that no self respecting 99%er would wear, no less own, pressed khaki above the knee shorts.

Was at Woodruff Park in Atlanta today. 2 tents and less than a dozen Occupy protesters who will have to vacate the park by 11:00 pm. Sad.

 

And I see that some are wanting a spokes person or are posting faked interviews as propaganda. What truly makes the whole movement great and what in the end destroyed the Tea Party is the fact that many of the occupiers do come from differing backgrounds and maybe have different ideas, HOWEVER that is a strength of the group and makes it that much more appealing. There are some there that I'm sure are just there to kill time and wait for a TV camera and crew to surface and say whatever they need to to get on the "air" and have their 15 minutes of fame while they claim they are a true spokesperson and not having any idea what the GA meetings or groups within are doing. The occupy movement is a cross sampling of the population. Are some violent, some way out there, some manic, some just wanting to belong somewhere? If studies were done, I'd say as a whole the movement and the US population rates would not be as far apart as some would have us believe. I would suspect political party affiliations would be slightly different. The polls of government would be very different. BUT the people as a whole would be representative of what is in the general day to day population to begin with. Unlike the Tea Party these days.

There are people there of all political spectrums, races, classes, sexes and sexual preferences and spiritual/religious backgrounds. What binds them together is expressing their dislike of the government giving the 1%, Wall Street bankers, corporations and so on more political power and influence than the people. It's not about class warfare to everybody there. IT is about fighting the status quo that has led us to world bankruptcy, this however, is something the very far right can't grasp because they fear the purpose and they fear that they will lose power. To me the far right is cowering and using force much like Khaddafi Duck did, much like Mubarak and every other leader recently deposed did. BUT we see how well that worked for them and how many innocent people had to die because the facist leaders did not want to lose their POWER over the people.

The Limbaughs/Hannitys/Becks/FAUX NEWS can't grasp the idea that their fear tactics and name calling and hatred isn't working for them any longer. You cannot scare someone who has lost everything because of the greed of others and then expect them to defend those who took it all away. Some people will do as their masters tell them regardless of what they lose. Everyone has a breaking point, just right now across the world people have reached theirs. It's been coming for years and there were the ones blinded because they hadn't lost enough yet. They didn't care that colleges raised tuition, streets, bridges and the infrastructure were falling apart, that we had outsourced our tax base and the military wasn't going to take cuts during a war. (Yet, there are MANY military families with their spouses gone that are living on food stamps and would qualify for government housing and medicaid in the civilian world. THAT is fucked up. Yet, the right agree with their masters and the big lie, that it is those families' faults for being poor. They use "stop loss" to keep troops there AFTER their contract is up, veterans returning home are more addicted to painkillers than ever in the history of this country. They come home to find promises have been broken and marriages are falling apart. They come home and find that banks won't honor VA loans and the mortgages would be more than what they could afford, they come home and the VA nor the government will help them find jobs, help with needed psychological issues and so on. I have worked with and talked to many vets returning and they almost ALL tell the same story. It would have been easier for themselves and their families had they stayed over there and gotten killed. That is sad. But of course the right refuses to believe that. The status quo has to be changed. no ifs ands or buts. Hopefully the Occupy movement can get those changes started.

 

This may sound like a stupid question but what are they purported to be hooking the propane tanks up to? Gas grills? Generators?

I have a hard time believing that anyone is that stupid. If they are, confiscate the tanks and let them get on with the protest. It should not be used as a ruse to stop it.

 

I can't link things yet so I will tell you to Google "5 die at biker event" and/or charcoal grills and carbon monoxide. The tarp, per se, is not THE issue. I thought you were smarter than this. and wouldn't need to be shown the obvious.
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Just watched that bike video. "We have no jobs, we're crapping on local front yards, we stink to high heaven, but we need electricity to keep our laptops, iphones, ipads, yadayada, running...
If ever there was an argument for how spoiled we are, there ya go...

 

In case somehow there a few folks that have been living under a rock and didn't realize that this is a liberal, socialist, partisan movement here's a brand new poll done with 301 OWS protesters. Enjoy:

http://www.fordham.edu/images/acade.../occupy wall street survey results 102611.pdf

 

are all liberals also socialists? is the fact that it is a mostly liberal event a problem? is it surprising that there are fewer conservatives when conservatives generally defend corporate interests?

 

And the Tea Party is a conservative partisan movement.

So whats your point.

Particularly, given that in nearly every recent poll, there is greater support for OWS than the Tea Party.