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Gadhafi regime crumbling...and fast

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by Baraka_Guru, Aug 21, 2011.

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  1. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    You may only get a point if you can outline five issues that Islamic countries have that are shared by non-Islamic countries.

    If you can't, the point is mine.
     
    Baraka_Guru, Oct 24, 2011
    #121
  2. EDDIE

    Eddie Getting Tilted

    You're asking me to prove your point. Which I can't because I don't support nor believe it to be true. If you've been to a muslim country you would understand that everything that occurs within their borders emanates from islam.
     
    Eddie, Oct 24, 2011
    #122
  3. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Are you well-versed in the Koran? It's on my reading list, though I'm not sure which to read first, that or the King James Bible. I will probably read the Bible first since it predates the Koran. I've only ever read the Book of Job (for poetic reasons). The Bible is just so damn long, which is one of the several reason I haven't read it yet. But I feel that I owe it to Western civilization to read it at least once. Part of me wants to really know how Christ-like Christians really are.

    My understanding of both the Bible and the Koran is based largely on reading things about them, rather than the source material itself. I have read several verses from each, but quite often the context is missing.

    I'm wondering if you're familiar enough with the Koran to make a better judgement than me regarding whether all these political and social issues in Muslim countries are limited only to the Koran, because there are many cross-over issues into countries that aren't influenced by the Koran. Which was my point.

    There are many misconceptions about what the Koran teaches and what is perpetuated in certain cultures. I've read and listened to documentaries on this. This is what I'm basing my point on. There are issues that Muslim countries have on cultural and social levels that have little or no basis in the Koran.

    This is where feedback from Lish would be helpful.
     
    Baraka_Guru, Oct 24, 2011
    #123
  4. EDDIE

    Eddie Getting Tilted

    I could probably answer most questions you have about the Bible. I know it pretty well. But that's probably for another thread.
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    As far as islam goes, to me it's a typical religion. All religions are basically the same in my eyes. They are created by men to persuade and control men.
     
    Eddie, Oct 24, 2011
    #124
  5. EDDIE

    Eddie Getting Tilted

    The Arab Spring: the ouster of the secular leaders and the installment of repressive Islamist law. Funded, in part, by the U.S. I thought we were supposed to be fighting the terrorists, not empowering them.
     
    Eddie, Oct 24, 2011
    #125
  6. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    :rolleyes:
     
    Remixer, Oct 24, 2011
    #126
  7. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    He doesn't know that Reagan empowered terrorists. Have some sympathy, man.
     
    Baraka_Guru, Oct 24, 2011
    #127
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  8. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    As Mr. T said: "I pity the fool."

    Next he'll say the US had nothing to do with the creation, funding and training of the Taliban.
     
    Remixer, Oct 24, 2011
    #128
  9. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Oil > Terrorism > Communism

    You know how it is.
     
    Baraka_Guru, Oct 24, 2011
    #129
  10. EDDIE

    Eddie Getting Tilted

    No, I get it. Reagan's involvement in the afghanistan-russia conflict. I just find it perplexing how we can actively be fighting the "war on terror" while funding terrorist breeding grounds. I mean, talk about counterproductive.
     
    Eddie, Oct 24, 2011
    #130
  11. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Any Western support or involvement in the affairs of the Arab Spring hinge on the prospect of democratic systems either being implemented or resumed. You know, elections and that sort of thing.
     
    Baraka_Guru, Oct 24, 2011
    #131
  12. EDDIE

    Eddie Getting Tilted

    OIL
     
    Eddie, Oct 24, 2011
    #132
  13. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    And terrorist oil burns just as well as democratic oil, amirite?

    Even Canada's godless socialist oil burns pretty damn good.
     
    Baraka_Guru, Oct 24, 2011
    #133
  14. EDDIE

    Eddie Getting Tilted

    Absolutely. And when Libya becomes the terrorist breeding ground that our government knows it will, we can invade and take what we want.
     
    Eddie, Oct 24, 2011
    #134
  15. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    They're going to invade Saudi Arabia first.
     
    Baraka_Guru, Oct 24, 2011
    #135
  16. EDDIE

    Eddie Getting Tilted

    What for? We're in bed with those fuckers.
     
    Eddie, Oct 24, 2011
    #136
  17. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Well, you implied that Islamic nations are breeding grounds for terrorists. I say root them out and take their oil! (They have a shit load of oil!)
     
    Baraka_Guru, Oct 24, 2011
    #137
  18. EDDIE

    Eddie Getting Tilted

    If, for some reason, we no longer have access to Saudi oil, then we will find a way to gain access. Perhaps through military means.
     
    Eddie, Oct 24, 2011
    #138
  19. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    So as long as the Libyan oil keeps flowing, the terrorists don't matter?
     
    Baraka_Guru, Oct 24, 2011
    #139
  20. EDDIE

    Eddie Getting Tilted

    As long as the oil keeps flowing and as long as the terrorists stay in their own country...we'll do business with 'em.
     
    Eddie, Oct 24, 2011
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