Bigger penis.

I've posted this before, and will gladly say it again:

Thank you for your honesty.

Even though the A Bigger Penis Is Better For Playing it doesn't make 'smaller' guys feel any better.

Many people, guys & gals, have posted that PIV is only part of sex. The build-up, the anticipation, is largely mental. There certainly is a difference between fucking, sex, & making love.

Penis size and breast size are analogous when it comes to visual appeal and playing. Speaking for myself: By the time the situation reached breast play I wouldn't care what size they were. And breast size would not be that important in the initial attraction (a part of the total package, yes; a major part, no). The guys who frequent strip clubs are there for a reason, they are not representative of the overall male population.

Several women have posted comments that a woman's concern over, or confidence in, her breasts size is comparable to a guy having the same feelings about his penis size. In some ways, yes. But when it gets to PIV, the comparison between breast size and penis size doesn't apply: The penis is used in PIV, breasts are not.

Gotta go.

 

honestly, it seems more like an ego thing to me. the bigger a guys penis is the more women will want them. or atleast that's how it seems

 

I didn't read all the discussion but unless a penis is freakishly small it's more than adequate. I've been with a freakishly small one and I will say as shallow as it seems the sex was never good for this reason only. This guy is my best friend now and I literally feel bad for him. He's perfect in just about every way but that and I've watched him go through a bunch of girlfriends and it's always after sex they break up with him. No joke. I mean he's really good in bed but there's certain things you just can't compensate for. I feel bad saying that but I'm also honest to a fault.

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Actually a small penis is good for anal though...I almost forgot about that part heh.

 

I know that feeling all too well as im ure mist of yall have seen

 

Don't feel bad. You're being honest, which is appreciated.

The female POV is important to this thread.

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I apologize to the people reading this thread, especially those participating. In reading some of my posts I come across as preachy, and that is not my intent. What sounds like being simply straightforward in my mind sometimes sounds asshole-ish when put into writing.

 

I know this is off topic, but do women feel the same way about their boobs that we feel about our penisis?

 

Ladies, your thoughts?

 

As someone that needs to special order 69mm condoms from another country it's really not that fun being in the 99.96th percentile. Every woman I've tried to have sex with has found it painful after a bit, and I always have to be very careful not to go too deep.

 

I cant speak for others but im perfectly happy with mine. Its really apples and oranges I believe. Breast size doesnt make or break how good sex is on the recieving end.

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But do women feel the same way about boobs that we do about penis

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Obviously once you stray outside of the normal size ranges size matters! If you are smaller than the normal range it matters. Hello. To suggest that it does not is to show yourself a fool. Can you compensate in other areas? Of course, but if you had normal size and duration and still compensated in those other areas it would be better because you would be bigger. Simple as that. Similar would go for if you are way oversized.

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I would very much like to hear the ladies take on this ^ theory.

 

I don't think it's "Simple as that."

If you are speaking strictly of only sexual pleasure, with all other relationship factors removed, with all sexual skills being equal, it is possible a guy with a larger (but not uncomfortably so) penis has an advantage over the guy who has an adequate size (but not too small) penis.

But there are many, many other factors to consider. It would take forever to go into detail on each. If you have time & inclination, and haven't already done so, read this entire thread and the earlier and more detailed thread (somewhere in this thread I posted a link to it).

In brief, based on what the TFP ladies have posted, size is not that important for PIV. Some of the ladies have experienced a wide range of length, girth, and shape:

An emotional connection. Sometimes sex is pure fucking, simple instantaneous lust. But most times a large part sex is mental. The connection doesn't necessarily involve love, it could be simply liking someone. The connections between different partners could be clear and easily explained, or something nearly intangible and not easily explained. I've heard women explain their relationships, sometimes with guys who aren't exactly hot, say "He makes me laugh.", "He cares about what I have to say.", etc. much more often than "He has a big dick and knows how to use it."

What she prefers. Maybe a large glans get her off more than a glans that is smaller in diameter than the shaft. Maybe she likes the feeling of being stretched by considerable girth, or maybe she prefers really vigorous thrusting less girth allows. Maybe she doesn't want a penis anywhere near her cervix, or maybe she likes some cervix bumping. Maybe a curved penis hits her hot spots more than a straight one. Maybe she likes the different angles that are easier accomplished with a smaller penis. And of course she might prefer being seriously stretched and having a penis bottom out.

Not all penises are created equal, and neither are all vaginas.

Girth. We've all heard about how elastic the vagina is, childbirth is a frequently used example. At what point stretching becomes too much, or is too little, will vary, and her mood plays a role. No doubt some women actually need more stretching, others less. For some it's more a matter of preference.

Length. Studies report that the average depth of the fully aroused vagina is about 8". We all know, from porn and real life sex, there is much variation. Medical studies report stimulation occurs in the first 2-3 inches of the vagina, the g-spot (IME it's fairly close to the outer first few inches of the vagina), and the clitoris. This indicates the need for deep penetration might be more of a preference than an actual need. With that said, there are women who need (or think they do?) deep penetration to be satisfied, and the same goes for being stretched.

Sexual incompatibility happens. One woman's stud might be another woman's dud. One woman's Hot Bad Boy might be another woman's N.F.W. Confident, or arrogant? Great conversationalist, or opinionated ass?

 

I haven't been doing the forum thing lately, but here I am, in a thread I can add more to.

My penis is 6.5 - 7 inches length depending on the day, and just under 6 circumference. This puts me into the 90+% for both. Its not a bad thing, its good for the male ego, but when it comes to sex it really doesn't matter much for a lot of reasons. Size does matter but as long as you are between 5-7 you are good for just about everyone. Bigger and you can hurt, smaller and there might be some feeling issues. But lets talk about me directly as thats all I can do.

My best sexual skill is oral and I'm very good at that. Lots of practice with a wife that was very hard to get off has made me something of a wizard. I've gotten women off who have told me ahead of time they never get off with oral. I've gotten women off who's husbands couldn't with oral. This sounds braggy but its "my thing" I know I'm good at. My penis has zero input there. Being able to make a woman orgasm is what matters, and most can't reach it with PIV alone. A good tongue > a good penis.

But lets take it further. My wife and I were in a orgy that would be suitable for porn a few weeks back. Everyone was fit, horny and going at it. This was a good looking group. I got the least attention in the orgy despite only one guy having a penis my size and the rest all smaller. Why? Because I'm average faced. I'm not ugly but I'm not hot either. No women sees me walk in and says "I want a piece of that". I still had a good time but no women were rushing to me like the pretty boys (I'd say physically our bodies were all close to equal). From a sexual standpoint I'd shave an inch off or so if I could get a better face in the deal, 2 if it made me really good looking. At times where my face is more on par with the group, suddenly I'm more popular. Its all about that chemistry and being hot is pretty much where its at there, more than a big penis.

As posted above, this is true, but so rarely the case and penis size tends to be the last factor in sex. Now obviously a guy with a micro penis is going to have issues with some women, and while getting no sympathy so do the truly monster guys too, but penis size itself tends to be more of a male vrs male thing. Its ego vrs ego, and I get it because I've been there. Once when my wife had a guy bigger than me, it bothered me viscerally and fuck I'm bigger than 90% of men and she just bitched it hurt, but it still bothered me despite the intellectual part of me laughing at the visceral one. I think women do the same with breast implants, and when talking to women who have them, the most common thing I've heard is they wish they got bigger. As a man I see no point in giant bolt ons, but many women want that. Thank god men can't get penis enlargement as easy as women get breast enlargement or the species might die out.

 

On the smaller side - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

An earlier thread that pretty much says learn to be a good lover and don't worry about your penis size. One post in particular is telling (and yes, I admit reassuring on a personal level as a guy with some doubts, even at my age).

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@Herculite I'm surprised that you don't get (more frequent?) curiosity fucks (for lack of a better description). Maybe women who are experienced swingers have learned that size isn't that important, i.e. they're no longer curious? Or maybe general attraction over penis size holds true across the range of sexual experiences, even swinging?

You took part of my post out of context, IMO. Yes, perhaps I'm overreacting, but that's how I see it. I understand you addressing the statement, but I did go on to refute what I posted (which is addressing what somebody else posted).

Yes, penis size is mostly a male ego issue (micro penises are a real issue, going beyond simple ego). You mention being willing to sacrifice an inch or even two to be better looking. In the swinging world being really good looking might allow you to use a 4.5"- 5" incher more often, or get the satisfaction of being chosen first (which is an ego thing if you're going to get in on the action anyway). In reality, even if it meant more frequent sex, I doubt that most guys, even those with a bit to spare so to say, would actually give up two inches. Think about it: The moment of truth.....the point where saying "Proceed" means no turning back.....when 6.5" becomes 4.5"......permanently. Maybe if a guy knew that he was very much uncomfortably large, but even then......hmm.

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Dildos and vibrators size, and how much women use, previously mentioned. Namely women masturbating strictly for their own pleasure, not putting on a show. Per my wife, referring to not taking it all, "I only use what I need, I don't need the whole thing."

Another observation: In the above scenario women tend to stimulate their clit quite a bit, rather than relying just on the toy in their vagina.

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Penis size in pro porn, also previously discussed. If you watch some of the positions carefully, you'll notice that frequently the guy isn't fully penetrating the woman.

 

Its a trade off but you would definitely have more sex over all in the swinging world with a better face than penis. I'd argue you'd have more sex in any world there.

You are right about that I wouldn't trade as a non-swinger. This is more about attraction than penis size really. If I were single I'd be a catch, I'm good enough looking, I make very good money, I'm stable, I'm fit, I'm drug free, I have no real baggage (well I'd have to be divorced but I think thats expected if I were single at my age for most), I'm intelligent, I have status, etc. These are all things that can build attraction for a long term mate, and my penis being nice helps there too. I think I've talked about this in the past but maybe not.

As a swinger though, all of that beyond looks is pretty meaningless. Being good looking is the #1 factor, and I'm not the best boytoy.

But again its the male ego thing too. There was a time in my life I thought I was a bit below average (bad measuring + bad data) and it bugged me. It didn't prevent me from doing anything, I even went into swinging thinking I was smaller than average, but I get how that eats at a guy.

Honestly I think this is one of those things that no matter how many times someone says its not a big deal, how many women say it, how many guys say it, its just something thats hard to accept at a visceral level.