Politics The Elephant in the room...The GOP today

I've wondered where the conservative intellectuals have been hiding. I'm glad someone has come out to say some of the things I've been thinking.

I don't think that's listed in the DSM though....

 

I'd say a more fair assessment is megalomaniac.
He's sane, he just wants it all and wants to be known for it.
Like a loudmouth, un-subtle Larry Ellison with no class. (and not as much money)

Well, I'm trying to not get caught up in all the back & forth...it's easy to go overboard and out of control.
I'm trying to post only those items that are being brought up by conservatives or right-leaning on Trump.
Or the opposite for Hillary
Or en masse for either.

I'd say leaving a day buffer and make sure it's posted to several decent scaled media outlets would be a good way to trim the waves.
I want to keep my GDI cred.
But Trump makes it difficult.


I will say this, I don't really give a shit about the whole deferments thing, as it was a BS situation and multiple leaders on all sides got them including ex-presidents.
And Hillary was not included due to sex limitations at the time. (wouldn't be fair)

And I'm not concerned about the Khan thing, other than how he handled it horribly.
I'm watching for leadership qualities, of which he's shown nothing of for a national/global scale leader.
(for example, that's what showed Obama could do the deed...when he dealt with smoothly the economic crisis, better then McCain...despite his lack of previous executive experience)

I judge people for how they deal with things.
Not so much their label.

 

Ya know it's not good for you when...

50 former GOP national security officials: Trump would be ‘most reckless’ American president in history
GOP senator: Why I cannot support Trump

...and you know they're right.

 

So what happens when your stallion takes takes bit into his mouth and gallops away, not under your control??
What do you do???

Panic? Jump to the ground to save yourself?? Wait for him to HOPEFULLY slow down?

Win or lose, Trumpism may be here to stay in the GOP

I actually feel for the leaders.
And I do wish they could get it back to "old-school" conservative values. (because I like many of those values)

But right now, it's not "conservative", it's RADICAL.
And they have to blame themselves too, understand how they were complicit.
Stoking the flames when convenient, apologists for words that went overboard, allowing candidates that weren't stable...and so on.

You allow or encourage the kids to party and drink,
then you're surprised when they get out of control???
Guess what...you might lose "the house", if not piss off the neighbors.

We'll see...

 

GOP plots early wake-up call for Clinton

OK, this is one of the primary things I hate about the GOP today.
I don't mind opposition, it's good for checks and balances.
But you do this AT THE TIME of the issue...and ONLY for things of concern...THEN move the ball forward with compromise.

HOWEVER, these folks are doing it for spite.
And stonewalling galore.
NOTHING gets done.

Cut the shit guys.
Man up, understand you lost or may lose.
Work with who you got.
And do some fuckin' work for the US.
Get your JOB done!!

 

Hill Republicans: Clinton investigations won’t stop if she wins

See this is what infuriates me with the current GOP...not the values (again, I'm not liberal or pro-Dem),
but the constant WAR!
Continual attacks, continual investigations, continual resistances against anything not absolutely their way.

So basically, what you're going to get...IF there isn't a complete rout and backlash on the GOP this election,
is the Hill GOP digging their heals in.
stopping government
constant drip, drip, drip
wasted money galore (and wasted time...AND nothing gets done)

The same damned thing we saw in Bill Clinton's admin, in Obama's...and now in potentially Hillary's

Dammit, compromise!
Work with the other side.
Stop the constant investigations.
FOCUS on the work for the PEOPLE.

Do the damned job we put you in there for!!

Actually, PLEASE dump the GOP so we can actually get some darn work done.
Let them figure it out, get their heads on straight, outside the beltway...then fight their way back in, justifying it IF the Dems aren't doing the job...or they're just going to have to adjust according to where the electorate actually is.
Cause right now, they're in a swamp. (and the fumes are going to their heads)

Or behave yourselves, figure it out, work together, fix shit.
But I don't have faith in them...they haven't shown themselves to be worth it.
I "hear" lots of promises, I "smell" and "see" lots of bullshit.

 

There's an elephant in the room...
And it ain't one of Binkley's imaginary creatures.


...but there's certainly a stampede from it.

 

Something I posted on FB...interesting from "The" conservative magazine, The Weekly Standard.
The Debate's Biggest Loser Was the GOP

Thing I noted quickly...underlined early in the opinion, "he lied constantly"

Again, my question is...what are conservatives going to do about it??
There is NO "Standard" anymore...

 

Today the republican party imploded. Trump says the republicans, ostensibly his own party, are "worse than crooked Hilary." So that's a thing.

I'm not nearly smart enough to even guess at what implications this will have for the party long term, but I'm sure it's nothing good.

Comment seen on reddit:

"It's one thing to have to run away from your presidential candidate. It's something else entirely to run away from your presidential candidate and have him chase after you waving an axe."

 

The benefit of the doubt is that the Dems are going to really push a "get out the vote" even if Hillary is ahead.
They want a full Dem tidalwave/backlash to bring in as many Dems as possible into office...take back the Senate and narrow the gap in the House.
So it's unlikely, they'll assume.

On another note...is it me or is there a drip, drip, drip connection of Trump to Russia here???
I'm not one to lean into conspiracy...but I keep hearing Russia's name come up again & again with him... like most recently he refused to believe in security briefings that Russian hackers may be involved.
It's just strange. LINK

 

Well, I mean, never say never, fat lady, etc, but in order to have a shot at the white house Trump must win Ohio and Florida. The math just does not work if he doesn't get those two states. He's currently polling behind in both, with less than a month to turn it around. Unless he's able to bust out some kind of heretofore unseen strategic genius it's looking very unlikely that he has a realistic shot of winning.

Today someone firebombed the Republican headquarters in Orange County. Regardless of political stripe I think (hope!) we can all agree violence is never acceptable. Hilary tweeted a simple message of solidarity but Trump, of course, couldn't resist the opportunity to turn it into a dig against Hilary.

I don't think the man's capable of empathy. He doesn't seem to have those circuits.

 

Sure, I didn't mean to imply that he only has to win Ohio and Florida, more that he cannot win without those two. This is likely true of other states but I'm not 100% up on electoral college maps.

The main takeaway being that a Trump win is looking highly improbable at this point, and becomes more so by the day. The math just doesn't work. It's not impossible until the votes are counted but I imagine the only way Trump would be able to turn this around would be for something catastrophic to come out about Hillary. I mean, like, ate a baby catastrophic. Heck, with the shellacking Trump's been taking in the media and from his own party even that might not turn it around.

I'm genuinely curious to see where the GOP goes after November. I feel like this is going to shake things up in a big way. There's talk of a schism. Could the party actually fracture? I mean, it's been threatening to do so for years but it's hard to imagine it actually happening, if only because a divided right will give the Democrats a huge advantage in future elections.

I'm not really thinking there will be actual violence as a result of any of this. Internet tough guys are gonna internet tough, but take them away from the keyboard and they tend to be much more docile. But maybe I'm just optimistic, who knows.

 

Or, say, the polls vastly underestimate third party votes.

If voter turnout is less than expected, and if third party votes are more than expect, I think Trump has a better chance than I'm comfortable with.

#notapundit

 

Just don't treat it like a mid-term...
Wouldn't be in such a mess if people did that.
Vote, every time.

 

Well, I mean, like I said, it's not over until the ballots are cast. But Hillary's polling ~7 points up right now, depending on who you ask. A swing of that magnitude this late in the game would be unprecedented, to say the least. There would have to be some huge heretofore unheard of enclave of third party voters to swing anything enough to affect the outcome.

I'm feeling a lot more optimistic about the outcome than I was this time last month, at the very least.

 

Going by the polls, sure. But this guy doesn't do that: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-30-years-of-presidential-outcomes-correctly/