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"Good enough" partner

Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by girldetective, Dec 7, 2015.

  1. girldetective

    girldetective Getting Tilted

    If in love and looking toward a future with someone,
    and if lying naked with them stroking and looking, they asked, "Waddya think?",
    and if, in a relaxed mood you simply said, "Good enough",
    and if your lover was upset by this and offended,
    what would you think or do?
    How might you correct this so that the relationship could continue with love and surety?
     
  2. omega

    omega Very Tilted

    Tough one. I understand what you mean. But he apparently doesn't. Has he been married before? Maybe someone with more experience would understand it better. That life and people aren't perfect, and relationships take work. When you say good enough, it means that you are willing to work for it. You don't have stars in your eyes, you have dirt under your fingernails.
     
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  3. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    My boyfriend/partner is Swedish, and there is a Swedish word, "lagom," which has no direct translation, but can mean "good enough," or suitable, adequate, just right, perfect, normal, average, ordinary, depending on context, but never implies that anything is lacking. There's no direct equivalent English word, but when the farmer from Wisconsin says "pretty good okay" that's pretty close.

    He (my Sig) got himself in trouble when we were talking about sex and he said he at first found it hard to believe that a woman so ordinary (me:rolleyes: ) could be so filled with (sexual) desire. I did not take kindly to being called ordinary. :mad:

    But, he just meant that there was nothing abnormal about me. Except my appetite for sex. With him. He didn't mean that I wasn't special. Swedish lagom. Ordinary and special, good enough and just right, normal and perfect. All in one word. Pretty good, okay, eh!:)
     
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  4. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    I get why your partner would be upset, that said, Good Enough is good. Why does everyone expect exceptional? Isn't exception by its own definition exceedingly rare?
     
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  5. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Tough one.

    I have no idea, but in the future don't respond "good enough." That can be taken many ways, and the word that comes to mind is "adequate." Most people will see through false flattery and don't want it (those who need it have issues), but they also don't want to be "good enough" or "adequate."
     
  6. Stan

    Stan Resident Dumbass

    Location:
    Colorado
    It's not like you can walk into "Spousemart" and have one made to order. Even if you could, most of us would get it wrong.

    No one likes the concept of settling on a partner; but we all do it to some extent.

    The quantity of active, outdoorsy, super models that want to get naked with me has always been zero. My wife is OK with that.
     
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  7. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member


    I dunno, my Spousemart order would be really close to what I got.
     
  8. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    I'm still waiting for the active, outdoorsy, super model girl that wants to get naked with me. Good enough means that she is active and outdoorsy and wouldn't overthink mistakes like saying "good enough". I would be fine not saying anything if I could.
     
  9. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    I thought this about my husband before we were married.
    He checked all the important boxes.
    He was not perfect. But I realized I was happier, more mellow, and balanced around him. And therefore he was my match, he was good enough for me.
    Sure, there were other men who were better in bed, or who my family liked more. But honestly - he's the best person for me. And I'm glad I'm with him. And since I made that conscience decision to be loyal to him, everything else has fallen into place.
     
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  10. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Precisely.
     
  11. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    I wouldn't have a problem with someone saying I'm "good enough", but if she says "I've had better"...that would hurt.
     
  12. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    Those kind of choices are what makes a good relationship instead of a "situation."



    Men who really like sex (instead of just wanting to get their ashes hauled at their convenience) are very trainable.:) Because they enjoy the act, not just to Git-R-Done.

    When I first dragged Sig into the bedroom on our second date, he'd been widowed from a long term marriage where sex was grudging, once or twice a month, mish in the dark. I'd had better, but I would never tell him (or any other man) that. Certainly not anyone I wanted to see again.

    But with real communication, and "doing it" hundreds of times he's up there at the top, ready, willing, playful, and, oh so able.:D I've been five years with a disciplined, responsible, adult, who's a great lover. I truly can't imagine what could make it better with someone else.

    Hire for character, train for skill, as they say. :)
     
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  13. Cayvmann

    Cayvmann Very Tilted

    Just say "Good enough, but I have high standards".

    Really, for me, "not bad" would work. Not getting good enough is a little hard on the system.
     
  14. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Well said!

    Few people want to actually think about "compromise" regarding LTRs, esp LT marriage, but very rarely is anyone "perfect."



    That's a minefield that requires careful and light stepping. It can work out, as Lindy explains below.



    This is one of my quirks, I should probably step away from the keyboard, but I can't. If I ever heard my wife, or any woman, say that she "trained" me, I'd be more than a little hurt. TBF I looked up train as a verb in The Synonym Finder (one of the better thesauruses, IMO) and couldn't find a substitute that didn't sound a bit harsh to me when applied to personal relationships.

    With that said, training (for lack of a better word) is part of every relationship.
     
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  15. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    Everything and everyone has to be epic.

    That's what the Internet says and Cosmo says.
     
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  16. DAKA

    DAKA DOING VERY NICELY, THANK YOU

    No and No....EPIC is great, but that is not what lasts....for me, being with my SO is being comfortable, no hassles and just being together....
    Sex goes away, .....just wait 20 or 30 years, (AND BEING OLDER) ........comfortable together is forever.
     
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  17. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX

    In one of the limited access sub-forums here, a TFPer posted that he learned to appreciate making love with his wife more as they aged and the initial hot passion died down. I completely understand that sentiment.
     
  18. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    Can you laugh together?
    For all the EPIC in relationships the part that really matters is can you keep you sense of humor?
    When you are talking about 'good enough' I think humor makes all the difference in the world.

    It's not an insult.
    It means you have found a person who fits into that part of you that is needing coverage and it just works.
    That is as good as it gets, good enough.
     
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  19. DAKA

    DAKA DOING VERY NICELY, THANK YOU

    redraven....thank you...you understand...
     
  20. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    Certainly no reason to "step away from the keyboard." But I'll stand by my usage of the word training, and here's why. One of my aunts says that training is something you do with a dog, but that educating should apply to people. I disagree. When a practice requires specific skills in addition to knowledge, train is an appropriate word.

    That's why @snowy had to do teacher training practicum before she could be certified to teach. Joshua Bell is a classically trained violinist. Frank Lloyd Wright was a trained architect. You want to go under the knife of a trained surgeon, not just one who knows your anatomy inside and out. You want skill in addition to knowledge.

    Violin pedagogue Shinichi Suzuki put it perfectly when he said, "Knowledge is not skill. Knowledge plus ten-thousand times is skill."

    And pleasuring a woman requires specific skills. Men also, of course, but I think to a lesser degree. Men, correct me if I'm wrong. But I've heard men say "The worst blow-job I ever got was great" that proves my point. We are all born with the necessary instinct to breed, but that's not the same as giving (or receiving, for that matter) sexual pleasure. We can all benefit from training, in that regard.

    A good illustration of the difference that I ran across is that most parents, even many conservatives, would approve of a sex education class in middle school. But even the most enlightened, progressive, liberal parent would not likely want their fourteen year old daughter getting sex training at school.;)
     
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