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Does anyone here work from home much?

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Borla, Apr 14, 2015.

  1. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    That's the thing about writing.
    I'm sure if anyone watched me working they would wonder about the amount of time I spent staring at the screen not writing anything or wandering around wikipedia.
    But it's all part of the process.
     
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  2. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    So much research!
     
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  3. depends on your job I suppose

    I'm responsible for processing transactions, and they happen all the time - whether I go horse riding or not.

    It's not creative work or risk based work, and it wouldn't suit the sort of people who have the skills for that.

    Most companies have a back office somewhere with people like me who graft (and have a team of people who graft) to keep it all ticking along. And you need other types of people as well of course.

    It might (for example) aggravate me that we have sales people who probably aren't working very hard on a Friday afternoon. But at the same time I understand they do a different job to me and they do something I cannot do. And they are measured in a different way. If they bring in sales, and as long as they dont really rub it in people's faces they dont do 45 hours a week - nobody will give a fuck. Their job is to sell. My job is to work.
     
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  4. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC

    IHMO, you are correct.
    I'm a big believer in ROM, Results Oriented Management...
    An organization that emphasizes the fact that you get results, not what time you put into it...or at least to some formal core hours.
    Google is much like this...and people seem to work harder for them...not lazy at all.
    Then again...brain-work is an invisible thing...it is not manufacturing, it doesn't stop and start at a whistle.
    Innovation comes when it comes.

    I can be troubleshooting a problem while internet surfing, because I've stepped away from the problem, not grinding it...making those intuitive leaps. The brain does that better when relaxed.
    The brain does not rest when you tell it to...and you cannot just ram stuff down it. Believe me, when I push it...I get into a daze...or irritable as a SOB.

    Old-school mgmt needs to let go of the old military & manufacturing mind-set.
    We are a services industry driven country now.

    I don't mind going into an office, I prefer it.
    But I like flexible hours too...and some discretion on my effort.

    Believe me, I'll get it done 10x faster than others...but not look like I'm doing it.
    I can't tell you how many times, mgmt has asked, "What is he doing??" Yet, I do it. It's a challenge to find a manager that understands that.

    Most want "control" of you. They can't help themselves.
    Interesting on how they can't be aware of their own results.
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    Oh, they're working alright.
    And they're judged on their numbers, every year, every month, every week.
    And if they don't do better...then something is wrong with them.

    I've done sales, you have to be in the zone at all times.
    People don't buy on a product, they buy on the energy, the connection.
    Results.

    Your results has metrics, productivity in hours & minutes...and turn-around
    Their results is in volume & $$ (and margin %)
    Which is more ruthless and tiring??

    I've done both...there's a reason I got out of sales...it's never good enough, even if you're beating everyone else. (and I can sell ice to Eskimos)

    Then again, I do computers...many can't do that.
    I can't do day after day legal, although I know it...that has different hours and output too.

    My point, work is work.
    Don't look down on others...they're held to different but just as hard standards.
    The powers that be don't give money for charity.
     
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  5. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    I travel extensively for work so my situation is kinda the opposite of this thread. I've always wondered what it would be like to be home in the evening after a normal 9-to-5 but the commuter rat race always sobers me up and gets me back on the plane.

    When I am home, I'm home with minimal obligations. Imagine taking all your weekends at once. Every day I'm home is basically a Saturday for me. Bad Adult (TM) stuff. Netflix, booze and pajama pants at 8:53 AM on a Thursday? Can do.

    I have a pretty extensive home office setup, but it's mostly because I'm OCD. It is my firm belief that a man should never be without access to a printer/scanner and a plethora of standard issue office supplies. T'would be uncivilized.
     
  6. amonkie

    amonkie Very Tilted

    Location:
    Windy City
    I work from home 2-3 days a week. My husband has both a home office and a physical office for his IT business.

    I enjoy being at home in order to get face time with hubby, as we work nearly opposite schedules. The days I do commute, I leave the house at 5-6am and get home well after 7:30pm. He leaves 9-10:30am and usually gets home 8-10pm, right as I am winding down and crashing for the day.

    I take the "manage my workload, not my time" approach. I will often work in 1-2 hour spurts, then move on to something else. I don't have a dedicated office spot, but I do work outside when weather permits, or will pack up and head to Panera or Starbucks. I find myself much less distracted when I can't just get up to get something out of the fridge or do laundry, and so I get more done in 90 minutes than I might in a morning just being at home.

    The flexibility is nice, and it's afforded us the ability to do things a normal 9-5 would not, without taking extensive PTO.

    It gets very lonely sometimes though, especially given the nature of my job. It's a bittersweet thing. The very nature of it is what lends itself to remote work, as I can work anywhere I have electricity, my laptop and wifi. My job is data driven about 90% of the time. I make 5-10 phone calls a month.
     
  7. spindles

    spindles Very Tilted

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
  8. martian

    martian Server Monkey Staff Member

    Location:
    Mars
    Probably not dissimilar to the weather in Toronto today. Except instead of just rain we had hail.

    It's nice to have the option to work outdoors, but it's equally nice to not have to work outdoors.
     

  9. I do think different industries have different standards. I'm speaking as someone in a fairly "working class" industry (filling stations basically). If you worked in a tech company or for a marketing agency all sorts of different things go... you can turn up for work wearing your hair in a bun or wearing jeans, work from home (as long as exclusively Apple products) etc etc.
    (this really happened to me the other day. I am launching something and my boss wanted a marketing agency to do some stuff for it, and the guy turned up in jeans, open collared shirt, hadn't bothered to have a shave...)

    I guess the thing is for me, 95% of the people who work in my office and 100% of the people who work personally for me, dont have the option to spend a day horse riding and claim theyre working because they're thinking about work, or sit on their porch at home because it suits them. They have to be in at 9am and away at 5:30pm, and if they dont they'd get sacked.

    Now, granted I have parts to my job that those guys dont. If something goes wrong today I'll be fixing it on a Sunday. Last week I worked a couple of 12 hour days, and also had to travel down to London on another day. I have responsibilities in my job that never switch off. I have to make decisions that really affect the businesses bottom line in a pretty direct way. I personally will be held accountable for the delivery or not of projects in the way that someone in a front line job wont be.

    But I also get paid 3 to 4 times what those people do, which is kind of the balance to that.

    So since all the people who work who get paid £15K a year HAVE to turn up to work every day and working from their start time to their end time, I think the least I can do is do show them the respect of doing the same.

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    I guess in a way its the level of entitlement you feel, and I've often thought this is what keeps me "back" in life.
    The people who get away with stuff are the ones who just have the balls to do it.
    I wouldn't have the balls to spend every Friday at home because I'm in a relatively senior position. I'd feel ashamed of myself.
    The people who do have the balls probably dont get paid less or get ahead less, they get ahead more. And they get to have a lot more time to themselves than I do.
    But at the end of the day you have to know yourself and be true to your own character. I'm the kind of person that will always graft at whatever job I do.
     
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