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Are women looking at adult material??

Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by rogue49, Dec 15, 2014.

  1. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Ugh, just looked at the floor map for Powell's. The erotica section is in the gold room. :( I think it's in the back corner behind the horror, but couldn't say for certain. Given that it's Portland, the poetry section in that store is likely nothing to sneeze at, so I wouldn't put the two toe-to-toe.
     
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  2. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC

    Frankly, I think it's a little of the "all of the above" scenario.

    There are so many variables, there's no telling...but you can get a feel by trending, as with anything else.
    And that's why I was asking.

    It's a bit skewed because of the audience here in comparison to real life, but this would be true for any poll. Depends on where you ask and how you ask...and what the topic is about.

    Porn is obviously much more accepted in public and popular culture than years before, otherwise you wouldn't get as many references to it.
    Before it was more "verboten"

    Same it true of women's taste for it and the volume they consume it...mores have changed...thus they feel more comfortable going out of their way for it...seeking it more often...and going for rawer types and styles.

    It isn't that women aren't into it...it takes two to tango...they're into passion as much as men. Otherwise, we wouldn't be around here on Earth would we??
    It's what they allow themselves to state aloud outside of the house...and the amount they're going for it in comparison to before...this is what I was curious about.

    I know I'm certainly making use of it more now.
    Shit, I remember when I got excited by a glimpse of a nipple scrambled on a TV.
    And I know in the past, people got aroused by a shot of bare natives in a National Geographic mag.

    It's just what I hear in real life, from women I know...what the attitude is in volume...and what is admitted to in sincerity.
    That it often contradicted what I knew in numbers in viewing and sales.

    And of course, it depends on the age of the person and the style of life and their personality.
    Like I said, "all of the above"

    It's curious.
    I should become a friggin' sociologist. But they want more school...damn that school. (no time, no mind, no money) I'd be in it forever if I did everything I was interested in. :rolleyes:
     
  3. Bodkin van Horn

    Bodkin van Horn One of the Four Horsewomyn of the Fempocalypse

    I have a lot in common with most women in that I get 95% of my erotica from Quantum Leap fan fiction sites.
     
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  4. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

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  5. Bodkin van Horn

    Bodkin van Horn One of the Four Horsewomyn of the Fempocalypse

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  6. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    They are really just cummings of a different kind.:rolleyes:
     
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  7. POPEYE

    POPEYE Very Tilted

    Location:
    Tulsa
    I don't view this topic as an evolution or de-evolution. what we call porn. Sexuality is what it is. and hasn't changed from the beginning of time. temper it with some religious morals and we may burn that witch at the stake. all the while in the back room jacking off, " wishing I could have got me a piece of that ass." Get outside of The USA and its fake face of social acceptance and you find any person enjoying their true secret pleasures. Do we as a society disbarage our loved ones because they express their sexual rights? are we just jealous? frustrated? of them that say " Hey fuck you and your encampment?" I LOVE MY GAY FAMILY MEMBERS. Fix their cars and help them all I can. Lesbians Bi and my freinds that are cross dressing queens. I am personally not interested in sucking a dick, however, I accept this, when I see a woman that prefers women, I get that, I love pussy too.
    let's enjoy each persons personality. and quite frankly sex with our cousins and family and group sex isnt new. we are imprisoned by the socially acceptable while we watch and love porn lets get a grip on our minds as well as our cocks.
    I'd Love to fuck my best friends wife, morals stop me, even though after some drinking she told me she wont fuck me but she'd really like to suck my dick. Is that not porn? I have adult children, and WOW whats new to them could have never happened before. I say lets live everyday in the presence knowing that all things are not new, just may be shown to us with a different face. men and women get a grip on your minds and your sexuality.
     
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  8. Leto

    Leto Slightly Tilted

    Location:
    Toronto
    e.e. eewwww.....


    :)
     
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  9. POPEYE

    POPEYE Very Tilted

    Location:
    Tulsa
    I have often thought of moving to Canada, such a beautiful place to be.
     
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  10. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North

    Well there is this...

     
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  11. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "freak," but I don't think I have much sex freak going for me except for my voracious appetite. And that it started "inappropriately" young. My proclivities might have been considered freaky fifty years ago, but are pretty tame in 2014 2015.

    My "two hippies" Mom and Dad were very open and accepting in their sexual attitudes and as far as keeping their noses out of others' sexual business. That definitely rubbed off. We can even talk about it. Admittedly more easily now than when I was their oversexed sixteen year old.

    I look at my history (unashamed but not necessarily proud, of being sexually active since 11/9/91 - my fifteenth birthday:D) and proclivities, and I just don't see much freak. I like vaginal fucking in several pretty conventional positions. Mish, doggie, cowgirl, squats, standing, spoon.

    I don't care for anal. I have no moral objection, it just doesn't do anything for me. I've tried it enough times with enough partners that I know it's me, not just a matter of technique. The rest of you-all, you go right ahead and enjoy.:)

    I love getting oral. I love the way my guy can eat my pussy from behind. I love nipple stimulation and attention to my breasts. I can sometimes climax with nipple stimulation. I love toys. But nothing especially "out there."

    I truly love "working a cock" manually and orally. Ball sucking, deep throat, tit fucking, and yes, if you share my bed, you can and will cum in my mouth.:D Maybe a little bit of freak there. But this is all pretty conventional stuff.

    And I don't go very far afield in my interests. Either in my personal sex life or in the porn I look at. This may be offensive to some, but I have a visceral reaction when I see one man suck another man's cock. I can't help myself, it just turns my stomach. I don't think homosexuality should be illegal, I'm not against gay marriage, I have gay male friends of long standing, but I can't watch that. Gay anal, similar reaction, but maybe not as strong.

    I enjoy some lesbian videos, but I don't want to watch a couple of women fisting or stuffing each others' pussies with bowling pins or whisk(e)y bottles. I'll admit to enjoying watching tease handjob porn, but with most bondage, domination, foot or shoe fetish, I can't keep a straight face. Again, I'm willing to live and let live, but for many "freak" fetishes, the first word that comes to my mind is "silly."
    I think child porn (young children) is disgusting, but I'm not sure that I consider two fucking sixteen year olds to be child porn. I was one of those. And there I was a freak. A band geek non smoking non drinking no drugs church choir singing honor student freak that needed sex.



    And I like this.:cool:
    --- merged: Dec 23, 2014 5:33 AM ---
    I see nothing lost in this. Careful not to confuse subtlety with passivity. Some men can't begin handle an openly "aggressive" woman and certainly can't handle her with style and grace. Subtlety and passive terms allow for a graceful bow-out by either party. And our English language is absolutely riddled with double meanings, many of them sexual. 'Tis a disservice to the gods not to use them. Double meanings are plenty straight-forward to one who gets them.;)
     
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  12. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Actually @Lindy - I agree with you fully.

    I used the word, "freak" as an empowerment ...not in a negative context.
    I don't consider any person who enjoys their sexuality or is open about it as freaky.
    And in turn, I don't consider any person who prefers to not be as sexual or discrete about it as "repressed"

    I once had the pleasure of seeing Al Goldstein, publisher of Screw magazine and a militant feminist debate at college. (1987)
    The militant feminist was so extreme in her views of how males are repressing women and pornographers are exploiting women she pissed off everyone, including all the campus women.
    Al Goldstein was better received and everyone (both men & women) agreed with his viewpoint and philosophy...but he was so graphic and crude, that he made the audience feel uncomfortable.

    So, there's that...even in 1987 women showed that they enjoyed the idea of porn even to the point of frowning on an extreme feminist's idea of repression and exploitation,
    but ALL also didn't like it just put out there and shoved in their faces as Goldstein did, even though they agreed with him.

    I've known since 1987 that women are just as favorable about adult material as men, it was a revelation and a pleasure to know.
    It's just that they are more discrete about it for the most part.
    And I do agree with you that many men cannot handle a sexually aggressive or comfortable woman. I've seen this quite often. (some women too get upset at this)

    The man that openly boasts about sex even in "safe" groups are often thought of as a "perv" - even by those who do it themselves.
    And the woman that also does the same, is thought of as the "slut" - even by those who may do it themselves...and with less discretion.
    Classic Virgin/Whore complex (for both men & women)

    I would love to see the day when sex is not thought of as "bad"
    And those listening don't attribute a negative context to the person showing it.

    So, my question, have women been looking at adult material..."more".
    Why women?
    Because it's a better barometer than men...men are expected to look at open, they boast and joke about it, it's obvious they are mass consumers of it. So it kind of silly to ask this to get a read on mores.
    But this is still not true for women...or not as obvious. It is a better meter of how we've changed.

    I'd love to come to the day when it's obvious for both sexes.
    And the question doesn't have to be asked.
     
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  13. Daniel_

    Daniel_ The devil made me do it...

    Great thread, and yes, women do. My wife and I sometimes do together too.

    But OP, I can't not comment on your "even gays"! WTF?
     
  14. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Meaning, that it is obvious and even advertised or boasted that men of all kinds, including gay men, are consuming adult material,
    however it is not as obvious that women are doing so by comparison.

    At least that was the original premise starting the thread and the question.
    Now it is apparent from at least this response on this board that women are using it more.
    (although, I will admit that the TFP audience and result may be a bit skewed for this question since we do have adult material on it...but at the same time, it shows that it's enjoyed by all)

    Interesting question to pose...certainly caused debate.
     
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  15. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Erotica rocks.
    Poetry sucks.
    :p
     
  16. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North


    Hey now!
    Going back to e.e. cummings.

    Lady,i will touch you with my mind.
    Touch you and touch and touch
    until you give
    me suddenly a smile,shyly obscene

    (Lady, i will touch you
    with my mind.)
    Touch you, that is all.

    lightly and you will utterly become
    with infinite ease

    the poem which I do not write.

    Or this one, which I think is genius.

    her
    flesh
    Came
    at

    meassandca V
    ingint
    oA
    chute
    i had cement for her,
    merrily
    we became each
    other humped to tumbling
    garble when
    a
    minute
    pulled the sluice

    emerging.

    concrete
     
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  17. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    Apropos to the thread -- cummings is certainly "adult material."


    i thank You God for most this amazing
    day: for the leaping greenly spirits of trees
    and a blue dream of sky;and for everything
    which is natural which is infinite which is yes

    (i who have died am alive again today,
    and this is the sun's birthday;this is the birth
    day of life and love and wings;and of the gay
    great happening ilimitably earth)

    how should tasting touching hearing seeing
    breathing any - lifted from the no
    of all nothing - human merely being
    doubt unimaginable You?

    (now the ears of my ears awake and
    now the eyes of my eyes are opened)
     
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  18. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    Walt Whitman, from well over 100 years ago:

    A woman waits for me, she contains all, nothing is lacking,
    Yet all were lacking if sex were lacking, or if the moisture of
    the right man were lacking.

    Sex contains all, bodies, souls,
    Meanings, proofs, purities, delicacies, results, promulgations,
    Songs, commands, health, pride, the maternal mystery, the
    seminal milk,
    All hopes, benefactions, bestowals, all the passions, loves,
    beauties, delights of the earth,
    All the governments, judges, gods, follow’d persons of the
    earth,
    These are contain’d in sex as parts of itself and justifications
    of itself.

    Without shame the man I like knows and avows the
    deliciousness of his sex,
    Without shame the woman I like knows and avows hers.

    Now I will dismiss myself from impassive women,
    I will go stay with her who waits for me, and with those
    women that are warm-blooded sufficient for me,
    I see that they understand me and do not deny me,
    I see that they are worthy of me, I will be the robust
    husband of those women.

    They are not one jot less than I am,
    They are tann’d in the face by shining suns and blowing
    winds,
    Their flesh has the old divine suppleness and strength,
    They know how to swim, row, ride, wrestle, shoot, run,
    strike, retreat, advance, resist, defend themselves,
    They are ultimate in their own right--they are calm, clear,
    well-possess’d of themselves.

    I draw you close to me, you women,
    I cannot let you go, I would do you good,
    I am for you, and you are for me, not only for our own
    sake, but for others’ sakes,
    Envelop’d in you sleep greater heroes and bards,
    They refuse to awake at the touch of any man but me.

    It is I, you women, I make my way,
    I am stern, acrid, large, undissuadable, but I love you,
    I do not hurt you any more than is necessary for you,
    I pour the stuff to start sons and daughters fit for these
    States, I press with slow rude muscle,
    I brace myself effectually, I listen to no entreaties,
    I dare not withdraw till I deposit what has so long
    accumulated within me.

    Through you I drain the pent-up rivers of myself,
    In you I wrap a thousand onward years,
    On you I graft the grafts of the best-beloved of me and
    America,
    The drops I distil upon you shall grow fierce and athletic
    girls, new artists, musicians, and singers,
    The babes I beget upon you are to beget babes in their turn,
    I shall demand perfect men and women out of my love-
    spendings,
    I shall expect them to interpenetrate with others, as I and
    you interpenetrate now,
    I shall count on the fruits of the gushing showers of them, as
    I count on the fruits of the gushing showers I give now,
    I shall look for loving crops from the birth, life, death,
    immortality, I plant so lovingly now.
     
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  19. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Just chilling on the sofa this morning with some coffee and some BL/yaoi manga. The mangaka confesses in her notes that she likes writing and drawing the porny bits. I'm grateful.
     
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  20. weezer

    weezer Getting Tilted

    Location:
    this mortal coil
    I love me some e.e. cummings... one of my favorites:

    she being Brand

    -new;and you
    know consequently a
    little stiff i was
    careful of her and(having

    thoroughly oiled the universal
    joint tested my gas felt of
    her radiator made sure her springs were O.

    K.)i went right to it flooded-the-carburetor cranked her

    up,slipped the
    clutch(and then somehow got into reverse she
    kicked what
    the hell)next
    minute i was back in neutral tried and

    again slo-wly;bare,ly nudg. ing(my

    lev-er Right-
    oh and her gears being in
    A 1 shape passed
    from low through
    second-in-to-high like
    greasedlightning)just as we turned the corner of Divinity

    avenue i touched the accelerator and give

    her the juice,good

    (it
    was the first ride and believe i we was
    happy to see how nice she acted right up to
    the last minute coming back down by the Public
    Gardens i slammed on
    the

    internalexpanding
    &
    externalcontracting
    brakes Bothatonce and

    brought allofher tremB
    -ling
    to a:dead.

    stand-
    ;Still)
     
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