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NFL 2014 season thread: The good, the bad, & the ugly.

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Chris Noyb, Aug 10, 2014.

  1. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member


    And when the cost of not going to one meeting is in the millions of dollars...
     
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    Borla Moderator Staff Member

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  3. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Very Tilted

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    Most of the players who make it to the nfl or any pro level of sports have been treated like kings since an early age. They become entitled to everything and think they can get any with anything. My guess is he figures his lawyer, manager or someone will make this go away.
     
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  4. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  5. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    I do think he drags them up above where you'd expect them to be. I'd argue that it is because he is just that good (already). Kind of like how Peyton did when he was there. Though Luck's play is more Ben Roethlisberger than Manning.
     
  6. POPEYE

    POPEYE Very Tilted

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    IMO Peterson didn't do anything wrong, the NFL is saving face, and money, and future lawsuits so on and so on it go's....there may also be some money hungry women in his life and let's not forget about the lawyers and court systems that rely on the contributions made by the public. Rice on the other hand is a fucking wife beater and an asshole. Vick turned my stomach with the dog fighting and I'm glad he went to prison, and the great NFL was happy to have him back.....
     
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    Romo, choking hazard. Lol
     

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  8. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member



    This is a pic from almost a full week after the beating. He had similar cuts on his testicles that aren't in the released pictures.


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    He also admitted he stuffed the kid's mouth full of leaves from the yard to stop him from screaming.



    You don't think there is anything wrong with that?
     
  9. POPEYE

    POPEYE Very Tilted

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    I had no idea, that is messed up, I thought he just whipped his kid with a switch. I always had to pick my own off the willow tree, and I hated that tree. I spoke outa turn sorry...
     
  10. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member



    That's why I posted the pics.

    Some people have thought he spanked the kid. Though some don't agree with it as discipline, I'd be with you as far as it being overblown if he'd swatted the kid a few times. I got spanked as a kid occasionally, when I deserved severe punishment. But never once was a mark left.

    Seeing the pics, and realizing that was after a week of healing, really drives home how bad the beating was.
     
  11. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    The only problem is puny romo & the cowgirls haven't (so far) gone into their normal December dive. They didn't choke after giving up 24 unanswered points to blow a 21-0 lead....but....the Eagles helped them by making many stupid mistakes. If the 'girls go into the POs with momentum, I could end up being very miserable.

    I'm a believer in momentum making a big difference in the POs . Impressive wins over good teams in the last 3-4 games of the regular season (possibly the cowgirls) mean much more than a really good record with too many narrow wins that should not have been close (the Colts, even though their record isn't "really good"). Of course in the POs anything can happen.
     
  12. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    I just saw a report that DeMarco Murray has a broken bone in his left hand. Whther or not he'll play (I say NFW the 'girls will keep him out), and how it might affect his playing are unknown.
     
  13. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Very Tilted

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    Yeah, that's completely out of line and fucked up.
    --- merged: Dec 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM ---
    Is it just my wishful thinking or is Romo getting up slower and slower as each hit pounds him into the turf?
     
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  14. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    As of now, ESPN is reporting Murray will play. The break is in his off hand, and it is far enough up the finger that it can be splinter and numbed without impacting the hand too much. We'll see if he is effective.
     
  15. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    I think that you're right, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be affecting his playing, might even be helping it. I really don't want to see the 'girls going into the playoffs (at all) on a hot streak.

    I can only hope that he'll have problems handling the ball. Don't read that the wrong way, I wish him a full recovery......once the 'girls are knocked out of the POs. I've resigned myself to them making the POs :(.
     
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  16. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    I read an internet report about which team that is able to achieve an 11-5 record might not make the playoffs. It's of special interest to me because it will most likely come down to the Eagles & the cowgirls. I might've mentioned that I'm not a cowgirls fan :p. I've always felt for Eagles fans since they most likely are sick of Steelers fans; I've been through it as an Oilers fan surrounded by cowgirls fans. If I could push a button and damn the cowgirls to 100 years of medocrity--just good enough to give their fans false hope every season--I would.

    What is really sad is the Eagles coaches & players had to know the importance of winning the 2nd game against the 'girls (if they didn't know they're morons). I hate to say it, but I have to give credit to the 'girls coaches credit for finding & exploiting the Eagles weaknesses, and the entire team for stepping up after the Eagles turned 21-0 into 21-24 (qualifier--the 'girls had some help thanks to much stupidity on the part of the Eagles).


    So this leads to my question--What do you think of the playoffs formula that allows in division winners with shit records, while eliminating teams that are clearly much better?

    I like the idea that the division winner must have a minimum number of wins in order to qualify for the playoffs. This could be a Catch-22 for good teams. They might be one of the teams that make the playoffs because a divison winner didn't have enough wins. Conversely they could face much tougher competition earlier in the playoffs.
     
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  17. Borla

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    POPEYE Very Tilted

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    So this leads to my question--What do you think of the playoffs formula that allows in division winners with shit records, while eliminating teams that are clearly much better?
    I never understood why, a team with a losing record, could end up playing in the PO much less a SB? to me it should be winners advance and losers to the back of the line, thats real life, forget wild card and divisional competition...
     
  19. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    If the POs were based strictly on win-loss records, it might encourage some teams to tank the rest of the season once it became clear they had no chance at making the POs. Being in position to earn a PO spot by winning their division might encourage those teams to make a better effort, esp. since the league started scheduling many divisional & conference games at the end of the season.

    I'm hoping that @Borla will post some comments.

    EDIT--I won't pretend to understand exactly how the PO systems work in the NFL & the NBA, but both appear to set up to eliminate the weak teams as early as possible.
     
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  20. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member



    I've kind of gone back and forth on the idea of straight seeding for the playoffs (best win-loss teams, regardless of division) versus the current system of taking the 4 division winners plus the next best win-loss teams in each conference.

    At the end of the day, I think I'd lean towards the current system, even though it has some warts. But my reasoning on it takes some explanation, so here goes....

    The main reason is because of the way the NFL schedule is made.
    I'm not sure if many people know how the NFL decides who each team plays every year? You have 3 other teams in your division. So you play each of them both at home, and away. So there is six games. Then, you (and every team in your division) play every team in one division of the other conference, and every team in one division of your own conference, rotated yearly. For instance, this year the entire NFC South played every team in the AFC North and every team in the NFC North. So that is eight more games. The final two games are played against two teams in your conference that finished in the same place in their division's standings as you did in yours. Continuing with my examples, the NFC South's #2 team from last year (Saints) played the NFC East (Cowboys) and NFC West (San Francisco) teams that finished #2.

    Got that?

    Here's why it matters.

    Look at the teams that people are using for their argument this year that best record should count more than winning a division. The biggest one I hear is that it isn't fair that only 1 or 2 teams in the tough AFC North (Bengals, Steelers, Ravens, Browns) will make the playoffs when three of them already have 9 wins. so an eventual 11 win team could be out of the playoffs. But guess what? The teams in the AFC North were scheduled to play the NFC South, which is horrible this year. They were also scheduled to play the AFC South, which has three teams (Jax, Houston, and TN) that are a combined 11-31. So the argument could be made that the AFC North is advantaged, and their record is partially due to an extremely weak strength of schedule.

    Then flip it over to the other side. The NFC South is the one people are saying shouldn't send someone. But they played two of the stronger divisions this year, the AFC North (three 9-win teams), and the NFC North (two 10-win teams). So again, are they really that bad, or is it because they have a very difficult schedule?


    Divisions being up and down tends to by cyclical. Organizations tend to build teams to beat their division foes first. I think winning a division carries enough weight that it should get you in the playoffs. Especially considering how weighted the NFL schedule is some years (as it is this year). Will there be rare occasions where a team deserved to get in the playoffs and didn't? Sure. But my answer to that would be "You play twelve games against the same opponent that whoever beat you in your division played. Then you played that opponent twice. If you weren't better enough than them in that 14 game stretch to win your division, that's on you."

    Life's not fair, wear a helmet. :D

    I understand both sides of the argument. I don't think the other side is a dumb argument, I just think my argument carries enough more weight not to make the change.

    My $.02. Probably worth what you paid for it. ;)
     
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