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What books are you reading right now?

Discussion in 'Tilted Art, Photography, Music & Literature' started by sapiens, Aug 12, 2011.

  1. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Just ask yourself, What would Cliff Clavin do ;)?

    I find that a large mug of hot tea can 'stretch' my reading time without interfering with my sleep. The good news, and bad news, is my wife is an early bird and I'm a night owl. If I edited written works for a living, I'm not sure that pleasure reading would even be a passing thought.
     
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  2. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    Andrew Carnegie by David Nasaw.

    A very in depth biography, and so far seems pretty even handed. It doesn't fawn over him or paint him as solely some benevolent philanthropist, but it also doesn't make you think he was a labor-abusing scrooge.
     
  3. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Part of the problem is that I'm off coffee again.
     
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  4. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Please explain "off coffee." :eek:

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    I finished Mutiny on the Bounty, and have started Men Against the Sea. So far it's interesting to see how the dual authors, Charles Nordhoff and James Norman Hall, portray Bligh in the two books. In MOTB he's a tyrant who cheats his sailors out of food and personal property, and mistreats them. In MATS he's a man's man who does everything in his power to get his crew to safety, and gives himself no special privelages.
     
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  5. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Some of the stuff he did was pretty brutal though.

    Warts and all, or something.
     
  6. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    My sweet child, you know not what you ask....
     
  7. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Many of our early industrialists were hard men willing to do bad things in the name of profit,
    yet many of them did good things with part of those profits.

    It's nice to find books that present a balanced view of such people.
     
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  8. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    Absolutely. Many of the facts about him (positive and negative) are twisted by revisionist history. My main point was to say that this book seems to take neither extreme, it just kind of lays it out there and lets the reader figure it out. It references lots of personal correspondence and papers that supposedly weren't available for previous biographers. I'm about halfway through (it is 900 pages in print), and it seems to basically say "he was pretty awful, and pretty awesome, and sometimes it is hard to connect why he was one way in this situation and the other in that situation". Lots of people generically dismiss his philanthropy as trying to cover his sins. Except when you look at the dates of some of his writings, speeches, and personal correspondence, a lot of his philanthropy was put in motion before the worst of his evils took place. But you also can't just excuse oppressing people, or violence against them in some cases, by giving them a really nice library, lol.

    I'm not at all trying to excuse him, or defend him. Just saying that it is all kind of fascinating to me. Especially since I work in the steel industry and enjoy learning some of the history of it. :)
     
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    I'm basically a lawyer now.
     
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  10. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    The League Of Extraordinary Gentleman Volume Three: Century
    It's the League's adventures from 1910 to now.
    Alan Moore, as usual, is insane.
     
  11. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I rently finished The Sory of O by Pauline Reage, the 1954 French novel on which the 1975 porn movie is based.

    NOTE/SPOILER ALERT--If you have been meaning to read the book out of strong curosity, you might want to stop reading my comments. I'm not going to write any spoilers as to the plot, but I am going to comment what the book is perceivd to be, and what it actually is, IMO.

    If your copy includes the Translator's Notes, A Note on Story of O, and Preface: Happiness in Slavery, DO NOT read them before reading the book. At least two of them contain spoilers, and all three could possibly affect how you perceive the novel. They are worth reading regarding how the novel "ends," but only after reading the novel.

    IMO this is not a full novel at 204 pages, but it's more than a novella (more on that later). I wouldn't call TSOO pornography because the sex is far from graphic, and what descriptions there are drop off considerably as the novel goes on. In fact, many of the terms used for body parts and sexual acts are not only mild, they're nearly comical (belly to mean vagina, for example). The author goes into much more detail about the settings than the sex. It is erotica to a certain extent, the first of the four chapters in particular, but isn't that stimulating. Much of the sex is presented as-matter-of-factly. If it weren't for the BDSM factor, if this book was written mentioning only relatively normal sexual acts, it could considerred boring by modern standards (I can't speak as to erotica in France in 1954).

    The ending of the book very clearly wasn't meant to be the ending of the book, unless the author intentionally decided on an abrupt and totally unsatisfactory ending. The publisher attempts two brief explanations they call The Second Ending. One explanation says the final chapter was intentionall omitted, the other explanation says a second ending exists. Why only extremely brief summaries are provided--neither "ending" is presented in full--is not explained. I call bullshit: The publishers printed an unfinished manuscript. But in the notes that I suggested skipping before reading the novel, at least one writer indicates that the second ending does really exist.
     
  12. Taliesin

    Taliesin Slightly Tilted

    Location:
    Western Australia
    I absolutely loved the Malazan books of the Fallen . I read them as they came out, then when the second last came out I started rereading them from the start. To freshen my memory before the end. :D
    Right now I'm rereading my favourite author Traci Harding. I own the books in the physical form but they are in storage so I'm reading them on my Kindle.
    I prefer the Ancient Future trilogy, but I finished them and figured I may as well carry on with the second trilogy, the Celestial Triad. This series is set 50 years in the future but the first book Chronicle of Ages spent most of the story filling in the holes from the dark ages stories in the first series. That's the fun of a time jumping story.
    I finished that first book a few days ago and am yet to start Tablet of Destinies


    **Dammit! The first bit of this post is replying to a post on page one. I hope Amonkie enjoyed the series back in August 2011.
     
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  13. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    I now find myself reading Le Guin's Dispossessed. I'm already enjoying it, as she's an amazing stylist.
     
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  14. Levite

    Levite Levitical Yet Funky

    Location:
    The Windy City
    Really? I confess, I loved the Earthsea trilogy so dearly I went right out and started working through her other stuff, and I found myself almost universally disappointed. The Dispossessed,The Left Hand of Darkness, City of Illusions, Orsinian Tales, The Wind's Twelve Quarters, a bunch of others. Didn't much like any of them. The sole exception was The Lathe of Heaven, which was not only well done, but one of the most strikingly original ideas I have ever seen.

    What is it that you are finding so compelling about her work?
     
  15. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    I'm not that far into The Dispossessed, but I already find that it has a spare style reminiscent of Wizard of Earthsea. She tends not to overwrite. She writes purposefully instead of in the meandering style I find too common in genre fiction. I find it refreshing and engaging. However, what has drawn me to this one is that it keeps popping up on my radar as a great work of fiction on a number of counts. Mostly, I want to read this because it's in that vein of "social science fiction" that I enjoy (think also Orwell and Huxley).

    I want to read some of that before returning to pew! pew! type sci-fi stuff.

    I also want to read the rest of the Earthsea trilogy.

    I've actually read more of Le Guin's non-fiction than her fiction, so I suppose I'm more or less "correcting" that. I admire her view of the art of fiction and her theories on imaginative literature.

    I get the feeling that those who don't like her sci-fi aren't too keen on her themes, which I gather focus on radical social topics (anarchism, socialism, feminism, etc.) rather than the topics more directly in line with hard science.

    But the former is more the kind of stuff I want to read right now.

    I keep getting the feeling that science fiction and fantasy owe a huge debt to her, and I want to experience that for myself.
     
  16. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
  17. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I finished the Bounty Trilogy, have previously posted about books one & two. Pitcairn's Island was an interesting & worthwile read, even though it had some really slow parts.



    ==== SPOILER ALERT =====

    If Christian was truly determined to treat the four male native islanders as equals to the nine male white seamen, why did only the nine whites get to vote under the Majority Rules system? I've noticed this bit of British we're-fair-but-still-superior attitude in other works by British authors. I'm guessing that consciously or subconsciously it has something to do with bruised pride related to the rapid decline of the British Empire after WWII.

    There was much copulating, esp in MOTB and PI, yet the number of preganancies was relatively low until late in PI. Most likely something that the authors did want to address. Along that line of thinking, the authors also didn't address the potential issue of incestuous mating between half-brothers and half-sisters, which would be hard to avoid given that the exact paternity of several of the children was unclear.

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    I'm about 31 pages into Isaac Asimov's The Robots of Dawn. I didn't realize that this is the third book featuring Elijah Baley, the police detective & main character, but so far not reading the previous two novels hasn't been a factor.

    Edit--So far Asimov hasn't thrown me with any serious technospeak, but the book was published in '82. I have no idea about his writing since to my knowlege this' my first Asimov novel.
     
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  18. POPEYE

    POPEYE Very Tilted

    Location:
    Tulsa
    Dude, where's my country? Micheal Moore
     
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  19. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    Just picked up the first three books in the Sandman Slim series.
    Very hardboiled fantasy series about a demon/angel who fights his way out of hell and moves to LA.
    Of course the only job he can get is hunting monsters.
     
  20. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Read the manga Love Stage!! today. It's another BL title that was made into an anime and is pretty popular. Kotaku kept posting recommendations for the anime (Love Stage!! is an Anime Full of Comedy, Romance, and Gender Confusion), so I thought I'd read the manga first. It was pretty cute. I don't think it's as funny or as sharp as Sekai-ichi Hatsukoi, but it's still good, so I suppose I'll sit down and watch the anime when I get the chance (yay Christmas break).