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Ebola - Everybody Panic!!!

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by ASU2003, Oct 16, 2014.

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  1. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    The US is now free of Ebola. Yea! It turns out that it was difficult to catch from an infected person. Even if they took a plane flight or rode the subway all over a major city.

    Hopefully it teaches the hospitals and CDC that they need to plan better for when the next virus hits. And the media needs to report about the outbreak, but not follow every single case with 24/7 coverage unless it truly does start spreading to hundreds or thousands of people.

    The quarantine issue still needs to be addressed. This time, they aren't an extreme threat to public health, but there needs to be standard practices and policies in place. For Ebola that might mean not to take public transportation and record everyone you had contact with, while taking your temperature and trying to reduce contact with others.

    The disease is still a big problem in West Africa, and that is the story that the media should continue to cover. Hopefully they can get a handle on it and contain it. I would like to hear what our military public health professionals are going to help with over there a little more. The one thing I heard about was that they can now test a sample within 4 hours instead of 6 days to know if someone is infected. I wonder if the vaccine trails will be promising, or if the blood transfusion of a cured person will be used there?
     
    ASU2003, Nov 12, 2014
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  2. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    You Think Ebola’s Bad? Try the Black Death... :eek:

    Yep...it can actually get worse...MUCH worse.
    At least we have science on our side these days.
    And education.

    You know...people say that if you could go back in time and kill Hitler, you could prevent millions of people dying. (Holocaust, Russia, War in general just to win, etc...est. 40+ million in a populus modern age)

    I wonder if you go back and kill the warlord Janibeg you could prevent 100 million deaths in a less populus age (mortality - 50% of the pop dies)??
    Or would it still spread? Maybe less so?

    The cascading impact may be less so too...because in relative terms, the modern era recovered faster than the medieval era.
    Decades compared to Centuries.

    People...ignorance is NOT bliss.
    You can handle the truth.
     
    rogue49, Nov 20, 2014
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  3. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    Now, about heart disease....
     
    Baraka_Guru, Nov 20, 2014
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  4. Japchae

    Japchae Very Tilted

    Prostate Cancer!
     
    Japchae, Nov 20, 2014
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  5. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Last edited: Nov 20, 2014
    Chris Noyb, Nov 20, 2014
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  6. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    genuinemommy, Nov 20, 2014
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  7. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

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    Sorry @geruinemommy but I pretty much ignore anything that Alex Jones has to say.
     
    redravin, Nov 20, 2014
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  8. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    I was drawn in by a catchy headline.
     
    genuinemommy, Nov 20, 2014
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  9. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    genuinemommy, Dec 3, 2014
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  10. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Looking at the growth rates, especially by factors/trends in Log context, it looks like it's starting to level off...
    The level of effort may be finally taking hold.
    I believe they stated that worst case scenario, they estimated 20K deaths...but with the new trends, and it currently at 6K+ deaths...I'd say they'll may have 10K deaths by the end of this.

    Let's hear it for those doing the deed, despite the risk.

    Final numbers depends on a more complete and thorough evaluation and count of cases/deaths. (I'm sure there quite a few missing or not ID'd)
    But another large impact will be financial and social.
     
    rogue49, Dec 3, 2014
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  11. redux

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    The White House provided an update yesterday:

    FACT SHEET: Update on the Ebola Response | The White House

    The status and outlook is not good in W. Africa and Obama's $6+ billion request would not only continue to upgrade domestic response capabilities but direct funds to help with containment in those countries. If not controlled at the source, the spread will continue. The question remains if Congress will approve the request.

    CDC has case counts and deaths worldwide (17,145 cases and 6,070 deaths)
    2014 Ebola Outbreak in West Africa| Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC
     
    redux, Dec 3, 2014
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  12. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    That is a pretty impressive Fact Sheet. A lot of stuff actually got done in a short period of time. I would have expected some doctors and medical staff that were in West Africa would have already received the experimental vaccine or been treated with the drugs we have.

    I thought that a lot of that work had already been done and in place for any potentially infectious disease that presents itself at hospitals too.

    The next goal should be to figure out how to train people over there to use the medical facilities to their fullest once this plague is over.
     
    ASU2003, Dec 3, 2014
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  13. redux

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    Since 9/11, the big bucks went to preparing for chemical/biological weapon attacks.
     
    redux, Dec 3, 2014
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  14. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    rogue49, Dec 16, 2014
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  15. redux

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    2014 Lie of the Year - Exaggerations about Ebola
     
    redux, Dec 16, 2014
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  16. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    It turns out that it is harder to catch than was expected. But, I don't think that point was a 'lie' on the politicians or pundits part...

    What it did do was show a huge weakness in treating a real airborne infectious disease, along with the 1% of people who will not obey any government mandated quarantine. Let alone full scale travel bans and business shutdowns if a true epidemic hit. It showed that even if there is a vaccine that is in trials, that there is no easy way to scale it up fast enough. And that medical personnel and volunteers in Africa should be offered some of these vaccines for free once they are released.
     
    ASU2003, Dec 16, 2014
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