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School trips to D.C.

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Fremen, Apr 3, 2014.

  1. Fremen

    Fremen Allright, who stole my mustache?

    Location:
    E. Texas
    My niece, the aforementioned (in another thread) new National Honor Society inductee (still so proud), is taking a school trip to D.C. this Summer. (band related, I believe)

    I was just wondering if any members here have taken a school-related trip to D.C. before, and what all it usually entails.

    Do the students get to pick any of their sight-seeing destinations, or is it all pre-arranged?

    Are there any pre-cautions I need to warn her about?

    Lay it on me.

    Also, think of any questions I'm missing.
     
  2. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    It depends. There are companies that specialize in these kinds of things, though. My guess would be that it is all prearranged. Most band/choir tours are. I doubt you have to worry about much. At the last school I was at, there is a yearly trip to Washington, D.C. that the kids can sign up for. The teachers got the kids there, fobbed them off on the group running the tour, supervised them in the hotel, and got the kids home. The kids and the teachers loved the experience. The kids got some freedom in the evenings, the teachers got to do what they wanted during the day instead of following the teenagers around everywhere, and I did not hear a single bad thing about it from anyone I talked to.

    I wouldn't worry a bit. There is nothing you should need to warn her about. I went on a choir tour in high school and had a wonderful time--it's still one of my fondest memories from high school.
     
  3. Fremen

    Fremen Allright, who stole my mustache?

    Location:
    E. Texas
    Thank you, @snowy
    That's a huge relief.

    Appreciate it. :)
     
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  4. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Some very general thoughts based on limited experiences:


    A schedule/itenerary is a must. There is so much to see in DC it's easy to be overwhelmed, seriously overwhelmed.

    The Mall is huge. The tourist buses might seem corny, esp to younger folks, but they save you A LOT of walking. Don't get caught short on cash. The vendors rape tourists on food & drink prices.

    I went to Arlington Cemetary very late in the afternoon, basically at "closing" time. I got to see the changing of the guard, and the lowering and folding of the flag. Very impressive.
     
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  5. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member


    My guess is that the itinerary will be completely pre-determined. What is likely is that the kids will be shuttled around on tour buses, dropped off at destinations, and given some freedom depending on where they are. When I went on my choir trip to San Francisco, we got dropped off places like Fisherman's Wharf and were told to be back at a certain place at a certain time. Most meals will likely be taken care of, too.
     
  6. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Certainly.

    I should've noted that my brief (not my choice, I love visiting DC) experiences had nothing to do with school trips.
     
  7. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Actually, I find the official restaurants in the museums are more expensive than the street vendors.
    If you're smart, you just go to the standard franchise stores. Familiar foods, decent prices.

    I'd say for kids, they focus on the places that are very visual and catch their interest...and can handle large volumes and noise.
    Space Museum, Natural History Museum...and some of the standard outside monuments. Washington Monument, Lincoln, Jefferson, Capital Building, White House, WWII.

    For adults there are TONS of free things. These you can take your time, are a bit more subtle or need smaller, quieter groups/individuals.
    Art museums, Library of Congress, Archives (Declaration, Constitution), Portrait Gallery.
    These are wonderful for older at least college level schools.
    This is because you need some accumulation of knowledge, history and seeing pics over time...to really appreciate what you're seeing.

    Not disrespecting others...it's just a different perspective that I find is needed.
    I've tried it, the people who don't have the background don't seen "invested" into what they are seeing.
     
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  8. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I stood outside of the Supreme Court building with my mouth hanging open.

    Literally.
     
  9. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    It might be better suited to a slightly more mature group than HS kids, but I recommend the Holocaust Museum to any adult visiting DC. That is assuming they may be able make some choices of itinerary.

    Very sobering, obviously. But also a tremendously insightful and well laid out museum. Though the subject matter isn't fun, I think it is important to learn from the horrific mistakes made in the past as much as it is to learn about the positive things. The museum does a good job of shedding light on what happened, and though the focus is on the Jewish people, it also highlights other groups that the Nazis persecuted.

    Or of my other non-Mall favorites is the National Zoo. The outdoor exhibits open very early, and if you go early the animals are being fed and are very active. We got there at like 7:15 one day and had a blast watching all the activity. By 9-10am most of the animals were sleeping or just laying around.
     
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  10. GeneticShift

    GeneticShift Show me your everything is okay face.

    My class went on a weeklong trip in 8th grade.

    We took a charter bus down there, stopped in Gettysburg for the day. Once we got to DC, we stayed in a hotel, and all our sightseeing was prearranged. We did some of the Smithsonians, a lot of monuments, the Spy Museum (which was incredible), Arlington and the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, and a few other things. Since it was a catholic school, we did a lot of the churches and cathedrals too. Everything was chaperoned, and we were driven around in the charter bus the whole time. Most of our meals were taken care of when we ate as groups. There were a few times where we were given some freedom, like when we went to a mall and got to walk around. In the museums and stuff, we were broken down into smaller groups and had to stay in those groups for accountability. In the hotels, there was a guard in the hallway to make sure we weren't sneaking off.

    Since she's in high school, she'll probably get more freedom than our 8th grade selves did, but it will still be pretty heavily pre-arranged.
     
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  11. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    I agree most of the itinerary will likely be pre-planned and focused on the Smithsonian Museums on the National Mall, possibly a White House Tour (more limited these days and requires advance reservations made through your Congressional office), Capitol tour (the relatively new underground Capitol Visitors Center is very cool).

    If she is an app nerd, get the National Park Service app for the National Mall.

    If they will be there in late June or early July, the Folk Life Festival on the Mall is great....ethnic music and food all day.

    If they are going in mid-late July and looking for off-beat activities at night, the Capital Fringe Festival is great! Lots of music and performance artists at various locations. Go in a group!

    Any free time for shopping (Georgetown, etc.) always go in a group!

    DC is a safe city but basic precautions are common sense.
     
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  12. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I was in DC shortly after Holocaust Museum opened (in fact, I think that it was the opening weekend). I didn't have enough free time to go, and there was four day wait for tickets. Staying an extra day or two would've meant using vacation time and paying for lodging and meals. Without my wife being there. Which would not have gone over well with her. Despite her claims to the contrary (no, my wife isn't a shrew, it was just one of those married folks things).
     
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  13. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    I can completely relate, and it frustrates me when my unmarried friends don't understand that things are different when you're married.
     
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  14. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I know couples living together who don't understand some things about being married.

    My wife & I are connected in ways that are to hard to explain to those who don't have those connections.

    Anyway, I'm threadjacking here. Over & out.
     
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  15. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    There are two tours for the White House.
    First is of the gardens in the back of it...just beautiful, definitely something to do on those warmer days...but they allow larger groups to do this.

    Second is of the White House itself.
    It doesn't have to be just be through your Representative or Senator...but if you know someone who works within the Executive Office (actually a large dept),
    then they can get you in too with them.
    But it is place is small...so group size is VERY limited. (have fun with initial security too...)

    However, if you can get it during Xmas season, with all the decorations...then that is just AWESOME.
    The band is playing at the end during that too.

    BTW...you cannot go into all the rooms, very big and intimidating men will be blocking your way from "non-tour" areas. (this can change anytime)

    I'll see if I can find my pics. Very cool

    You can also request tours of the West Wing (the Eisenhower bldg)
    This is where all the real work gets done and where the press conference halls are.
    Actually it is quite beautiful on the inside with the marbled halls and the library, etc.
    Most forget to ask about that, since they focus on the WH...and it doesn't look as pretty outside.
     
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  16. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    The last time I was in the EEOB (not the West Wing), I was there for a briefing in the Indian Treaty Room. It was a hot summer day, late in the afternoon, the room was stuffy and I nodded off and missed most of the briefing.
    --- merged: Apr 4, 2014 at 5:12 PM ---
    The last time I was on the White House grounds (before the above) was for the annual Easter Egg Roll in 1999. A fight over one of the wooden eggs broke out between two mothers, and the Easter Bunny (Tipper Gore) got caught in the crossfire.
     
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  17. PonyPotato

    PonyPotato Very Tilted

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    8th Grade trips to D.C. are a "thing" in Ohio. Every school in the area I grew up in went to D.C. on an 8th grade trip, along with a small group of teachers, a handful of parents, and organized tour guides. Depending on the size of the 8th grade class, we were divided into groups small enough to fit on one of those fancy pants tour buses, assigned a real tour guide as well as both teacher and parent chaperones, and went off the see the major sights of the city as pre-determined by our tour guides. Those guys were awesome. :)

    My class did not get to go to the White House, for some reason unknown to us. We did see all the major monuments, a few museums, including the Holocaust museum. While it might be targeted for an older demographic, it still brought a handful of students to tears, and no one joked around. I believe we'd had a unit on the Holocaust earlier in the year or late the year before (?), and having that background helped.

    We were housed in dorms (6 to a room, 1 parent or teacher in each room), and roommates were determined before the trip.

    It was, overall, a great experience, and very well organized.
     
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  18. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    How could you go asleep there??? Last time I was there, there were so many hotties it was ridiculous.
    I couldn't decide whether to watch the presentation and be in fascinated where I was...or just rubber neck like crazy.
    Thankfully, I didn't want to get noted doing that...so I disciplined myself. But I certainly couldn't sleep.

    God I love being in DC in the summer...ooo, the trains.
     
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  19. Fangirl

    Fangirl Very Tilted

    Location:
    Arizona
    I think 8th grade trips to DC are a thing, especially on the east coast but here, too. I went in grade 8 (from Connecticut) and 23 and 32 years later respectively, my kids had the opportunity to go from here (Chicago area). It was all-pre-planned and uber-chaperoned. I didn't get to do a fraction of what I wanted, but it did give me an appreciation of the country's capital and a strong interest in returning.

    I don't mean this offensively but I have no desire to see the contents of the Holocaust Museum. I was traumatized by being forced in grade 7 to view news film footage of skin lamps, emaciated bodies being bulldozed into mass graves, and the poor souls who lived through it all being liberated and so much more. My parents were children during WW II so my generation got a faceful of it--and then we had our own war--Vietnam. I was a sensitive kid and I still have nightmares about the reality of the Holocaust. I'm thoroughly educated to the point that my psyche can handle, having read Elie Wiesel, Anne Frank and many others and watch all kinds of films, two of the most heartbreaking being, "Playing For Time" and "Sophie's Choice".
    I'm conflicted whether children under the age of say, 16, should get a full dose of the Holocaust visually. I think it should decided be on a kid by kid basis and since there is so much else to see in a short span of time in D.C., I wouldn't put it on a band trip itinerary.
     
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  20. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    I get it.

    We had a family reunion at the Holocaust Museum 15 years ago when an exhibit on the Kovno Ghetto (Lithuania) opened. My mother's side was from Lithuania and amonng the 50+ attendees was a survivor of the Kovno Ghetto who spoke to the group. Being local, I was fortunate to help set up the private tour at the museum.

    A rabbi who attended wrote about it:

    It was an emotional and educational experience to say the least.

    / threadjack
     
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