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Policing the Internet : Are there any ethics left?

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Edward Palamar, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    ejkwt... you're behaviour is a little ridiculous. This is not about favourite people or anything of the sort. You are looking for villains and conspiracies where none exist. I have read your tirade and found it more than a little over the top. And now you continue to "shit on the rug" in this thread.

    Please, get some perspective.
     
  2. ejkwt

    ejkwt Vertical

    Actually I am drunk but that doesn't mean you can just invisible my threads any time. Sure you can ban me as you wish but keep in your heart that my thread history has been nothing but positive; I have actively contributed in my own way and I haven't tried to uproot any of TFP's intentions.

    YMMV
     
  3. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    Actually, ejkwt, I *can* invisible your threads anytime I want. You are in our house and you should follow the rules. Do you go into a pub and behave this way and not expect to asked to take it down a notch or leave?

    Had you bothered to ask one of the mods you *before* you went off on a tirade of, "woe is me" you would have discovered that the posts were taken off to be discussed. You will see, I have put back some of them.

    Do yourself a BIG favour and don't drink and post. You come off as a bigger ass than I know you to be. For the record, nobody is looking to ban anyone (well, maybe Jazz, but he *is* an asshole). Our job here to keep things running smoothly. When two members have a bitch fest with each other that's not smooth. Will mistakes be made along the way? You bet. We are just people who happen to really like the TFP and don't want to see it become another forum full of trolls and assholes. For the most part, I think we have succeeded.

    The next time you have an issue, click the REPORT button found at the bottom of every post. It will alert the mods and admins to your issues and it will be dealt with as quickly as possible. Don't go off thinking the place it out to get you. It's just paranoia and paranoia is not a good cologne.
     
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  4. The topic has a title, including a syllogism, as a guide to formulating your thought. The single sentence is not posing as a topic.

    You have shown in this reply, the_jazz, your insanity of personal hatred against me in that unless I am being tortured in some way you are not satisfied.

    Reading another reply here from you shows you have already profiled me on the basis of my original post at TFP which you judge to be spurious without showing any proof to substantiate your assumption that you are right, aside from being arrogant and rude. If you treated everyone this way, you would only have yourself as a member. But you have chosen, for the most part, to show yourself otherwise.

    Treating another with such undo bias, however, is at core, cyberbullying.

    Though I find myself increasingly longing for such a topic as this to be some sort of an impedance to cyberbullying, I know it is not solely in my hands.

    In essence, the_jazz, you are suicidal - as have been many others, taking other lives with them, too. We are created beings made by Spirit. Spirit that is only seen and felt in physical manifestation. When we forget and/or fight this in any manner, the natural balance between God and man is altered, sometimes to devastation. That God alone has allowed such things seems to stir within us the pangs of new birth.

    I am noting that God has granted me such rebirth - not that ultimately anyone else has any say whatsoever in the final outcome.
    --- merged: Sep 16, 2011 12:43 PM ---
    That's just passing the buck, admittedly with the presence of peer pressure. At any given time x, there is the physicality of all of existence in a nice, cohesive whole - blaming another is just a cop out.
     
  5. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

    True. But I haven't been involved in that little drama. Up to now, anway.

    ejkwt - I've read the conversations and the posts now. From what I know of you, I expect that you'll be a bit embarrassed by it all when you sober up. All that was done was hide an off-topic post in response to the requests of non-staffers (and non-Plan9'ers, for the record). Honestly, we thought you probably had multiple windows open and posted in the wrong thread. Then you made it clear that it wasn't the case.

    Edward Palamar - you claim to be the resurrected St. John the Babtist and I'm the insane one. Right. I don't really care what your opinion of me is or isn't, nor do I see any reason to get rid of you or interact with you beyond this point. I have enough mental illness in my civilian life to have any desire to sample your particular brand. But the rules of this forum are pretty simple, and you'll note that the rest of the community pretty much agreed with my point. This is a discussion forum, and we expect the thread creator to frame the discussion in a way that's clear and easily followed. You did neither. The next time you do so, the thread will be locked. That's not because I'm out to get you - I'm not - but because it doesn't follow what I think are pretty clear rules. Post as much as you'd like, and so long as you stay within that framework of rules, you and I will get along just fine. Mainly because I'm not going to care about what you have to say.

    Let me know if you need me to point you to the rules thread.
     
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  6. Don't you find it a bit odd that those are the words out of your own mouth, not mine? I stated that your hatred was insane, as is your attempting to slight me on the rules here.

    Cyberbullying is insanity, too, so I'm right on topic, as are you.
    --- merged: Sep 16, 2011 1:15 PM ---
    More of the former, which, on-line, can also include the other two.
     
  7. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher


    • Thread Starting Guidelines
      • With the exception of a few specific forums, this site is centered around DISCUSSION and therefore all threads must have some conversational purpose.
      • If an external resource (news article, story, image, etc.) is being posted for discussion, the thread starter must quote the relevant part of the content along with their own thoughts and opinions on the topic. That is to say, you can't just post a link or a quote without adding your own words.
      • If you are quoting an article from elsewhere on the internet, you MUST link back to that article.
      • If possible, check to make sure that you're not starting a topic that is already being discussed. It is OK to rehash a topic that hasn't been covered in a while. This usually happens with breaking news. This does not apply to posts at TFP 4.0, although you're welcome to link to a discussion back there if you feel it's relevant.
      • Please follow up with your threads and post in them frequently. A good thread starter will tend to their replies to keep the discussion moving.
      • Blogs and threads are different. In practice the blog area has fewer comments and is designed for inner monologues. If you are trying to generate conversation, it is best to create a thread. Conversely, if you are ranting or otherwise not stimulating conversation, blogs are the proper place.


    Read more: http://www.thetfp.com/threads/general-rules-and-guidelines-of-tfp-5-0.1131/#ixzz1Y7aJFJEz


    I'm not attempting to slight you on anything. I'm simply being consistent. That means that I'm not going to treat you like you're special. Because you're not. Follow the rules, and you'll be fine. Don't and you'll find yourself struggling. If you want an example about what that means, go look at the first 5 or 6 posts here. If you post a one-line OP again, don't be surprised to see it locked by the staff to keep it from running off the rails as people take it in directions you didn't intend. Or maybe the staff won't because those unintended directions are funny. Either way, you'll be left having to start again. And I'm going to have no sympathy for you because you'll know better. Not that my sympathy has any impact - just making the point that our rules are in place for a reason.
     
  8. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    I have skipped the rest of the thread so far, but would like to mention that Edward's post you responded to didn't accuse anyone in TFP of being a cyberbully.

    Unless I got it completely wrong...
     
  9. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

    I know. You'll note that my first two sentences are in future tense, based on my personal experience on staff at TFP. Read into that what you will. For now he's content with me being the bully, which is fine. People accuse me of worse all the time - hell, Charlatan acknowledged that I'm an asshole elsewhere within the last 12 hours - and there are only a handful of TFP'ers whose opinion of me personally actually matters to me. Experience tells me that sooner or later there will be a report we'll have to deal with, and I can point back here and say "see?"
     
  10. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    Disagreed.

    Emotional distress is caused not only by physical acts, but also by verbal ones. For example, someone who was very close to his/her recently deceased relative/friend cannot be expected to simply ignore an entirely insensitive remark. Indeed, in those situations, emotions are in most cases bound to take over, to inflict substantial pain and to result in greater grief or anger/hate. Going down the slippery slope, tons of consequences can come about from this.

    In many ways, psychological attacks should be considered more harmful than physical ones (obviously excluding murder here).
    --- merged: Sep 16, 2011 1:43 PM ---
    Then I got it wrong. And yeah, your reasons are sound.
     
  11. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

  12. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    Hahahahahahahhahahaha, that page was one fun page to read.

    I'd love to know, if that guy and this one are the same.
     
  13. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

    Yep. They are.
     
  14. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    We are all of us apostates!
     
  15. Wow, google his name and he's everywhere. Dude gets around.
     
  16. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

    Just like chlamydia.
     
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  17. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    Ugh... the smell of madness is not a pleasant one.

    (and Jazz you should know that I still love you... even if you are an ass... ;) )
     
  18. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

    Thanks, Charlatan. I've always known that you like my ass. Which has been chlamydia-free since '93!
     
  19. Zen

    Zen Very Tilted

    Location:
    London
    ... and, it seems, on the recieving end of apostate stimulation; mine's chlamydia-free too, btw.