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Where does your confidence come from?

Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by cynthetiq, Feb 21, 2014.

  1. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    I've been trying to understand being assertive. When I was younger I wasn't assertive at all. Life moved me around like an air hockey puck. I'd float around until something slammed me into another direction. I went to assertiveness training class at a local community college when I was in middle school. It didn't help very much.

    At some point I changed from being uncertain of myself to confident of myself. I don't know where it originates from. I have been trying to figure it out. Does it come from authority? Does it come from age/experience? Where does my confidence come from? I'm not really sure.

    Where does your confidence come from?
     
  2. martian

    martian Server Monkey Staff Member

    Location:
    Mars
    I make an effort to always ensure that I know what I'm stating to be true. If I don't know what I'm stating to be true I make sure to clearly label it as opinion or conjecture.

    My confidence comes from the truth.
     
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  3. Levite

    Levite Levitical Yet Funky

    Location:
    The Windy City
    Self-acceptance, and having a system of how to make meaning in life.
     
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  4. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    As @Levite said, self-acceptance is part of it for me. I like myself, I know I like myself, and I don't particularly care if others don't. It's not going to alter my self-concept at this point in the game of life.

    I've always been a confident person. I don't always feel confident, though. I fake it until I make it frequently, but it seems to work.
     
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  5. NobleDeb

    NobleDeb Getting Tilted

    Location:
    New England
    It took me a long time to realize how much I was missing in life when I was unassertive and lacked self-confidence.
    For me a key concept is social perceptiveness.
    That involves understanding why people react the way they do to the things we say and do.
    Its about being empathetic, being able to walk in another persons shoes. On one hand its knowing when it is best to be silent or just be a good listener or even be demur.
    On the other hand its knowing when being assertive will open up opportunities with people we care about or just want to get to know better.
     
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  6. Japchae

    Japchae Very Tilted

    What confidence?
     
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  7. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    My moments of self-confidence usually come from a healthy dose of equanimity. It's difficult for me, though.

    As for wider self-esteem, I struggle with it. I agree that it comes from self-love or self-acceptance. This is something I need to work on more consciously.
     
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  8. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    I have no clue.

    I often feel like I don't know anything and am not confident in the things I do.

    Then... something needs doing and I just get on with it.

    I have these moments when I realize that, Holy Shit!, after years of doing things, I actually know what I am doing.

    More the point, I have learned to say when I don't know something and to ask for help.
    --- merged: Feb 21, 2014 at 9:01 PM ---
    In light of that... I guess the confidence comes, in part, from doing.
     
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  9. My confidence is usually feigned, especially when it comes to self-confidence. Still working on that one.

    In terms of facts, I'm with @Martian: My confidence in what I say comes from the fact that I'm stating what I believe to be true to the best of my ability (whether through secondhand or, preferably, firsthand experience), unless stated otherwise.
     
  10. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Well, it depends on what it's about.

    If it's just me being me...then it comes from me being naturally extroverted and enjoying to talk.
    When I was younger, I was just oblivious to what was "right" or "wrong", so I just did it...no fear of being the fool.
    Some others in turn, would see what actually "worked" despite their amazement...and then allow me to be included.
    On the other side, since I was socially unaware, I often put my foot in my mouth...fortunately, I was sincere...so I was taken under wing and trusted.

    Also, I had the audacity of proclaiming I could do things...thinking, "why not?", I could do it.
    Then saying, "oh shit" I need to pull this off...and thankfully I was for the most part talented and intelligent enough to "wing it" and pull it off.
    On the other side, I did fall flat on my face...with consequences too. But I was willing to try again...even with others...so lessons learned.
    So sooner or later, my ability caught up to my bullshit.

    Now...it's from an accumulation of knowledge and experiences. (both painful and boast-worthy)
    From seeing what works, what doesn't...and how humans are likely to react.
    So my confidence comes from the still existing audacity...but also now from knowing what's likely to be right.
    I've experienced so many things, in such diversity (and still have yet to...) and absorbed so many aspects, that I can guess where things are going.

    It truly helps that my mother gave me unconditional love and support.
    So I knew I was loved even if I failed. (that, and saved my ass quite a bit too. :rolleyes:)
    She took the time to explain things...and never judged. (which is different than stating what's ethically right & wrong)

    But even now, I'm encountering a new angle that I'm not entirely comfortable with.
    I'm going in managing a project, not really from a technical context, but from a new protocol/definition aspect
    And managing/coordinating other leaders too...which always is a challenge.
    So I'm outside my comfort zone...being the tech guy, but now instead a "torch holder" in an environ I'm JUST being introduced to.
    What the hell do I talk about?? What is the accepted protocol or expectation?? How do I project confidence but not step on toes??

    To be honest, you fall back on some "cliches". Everyone has their masks, their shields.
    You drop a few names you've worked with. Announce a few things you've worked on. (but you've got to keep it light too, not a hammer)
    Many have certs to fall back on. (I don't have any) Some have a title. (Dr., PhD, VP, etc..) again, I don't have this either.
    But people do put some worth into image. (that's why you wear a suit)

    So I only have my instincts, , my ability, my experience, my own self-worth...and some organization. (be proactive, keep ahead of it)

    In the end...the only thing you can do is put yourself out there.
    Try your best, keep a smile, keep calm.
    Get feedback.
    Repeat.

    And yes, I'm sick to my stomach about the first meeting next Thursday.
    But...that's what they're paying me for...that and getting results.

    That's my confidence...
    I've somehow made it happen before...so I think I can somehow make it happen again.

    The trick is to keep trying, no matter the result.
     
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  11. CinnamonGirl

    CinnamonGirl The Cheat is GROUNDED!

    Tequila.



    Okay, okay. I'm actually NOT very confident, unless I'm in a situation where (as others have mentioned), I know a lot about what I'm talking about or what's going on. I fake it a lot. There is something to be said about age, though... things I would've been super-uncertain about as a 20something, I don't think twice about now.
     
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  12. Stan

    Stan Resident Dumbass

    Location:
    Colorado
    It's situational for me.

    At work, I know my shit. I try not to be an arrogant asshole; but I have zero tolerance for posturing dumbasses.

    Socially, I'm pretty much as inept as it gets. I'm clueless at reading people.

    On skis or a motorcycle, I'm competent enough that I need be careful not to endanger anyone else.
     
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  13. Katia

    Katia Very Tilted

    Location:
    Earth
    Is there anyone else out there that has come to the realization that there is just way too many of us living by the moto "fake it till you make it"? :eek: Jeebus. Is it really just a crap shoot?
     
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  14. hamsterball

    hamsterball Seeking New Outlets

    There is a fine line between projecting confidence and arrogance. I've often thought that true confidence is best when balanced by a healthy dose of humility.

    I've never though that confidence requires absolute certainty. I see people who approach it that way and it frequently leads to trouble. Especially so when a person feels a need to cover up for a perceived lack of confidence in a certain area.

    Confidence can be built up like a muscle. It can get bigger and stronger. Humility keeps you out of the weeds.
     
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  15. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC

    Unfortunately, "the system" or humans force you to do this...even fully qualified people.
    The selfish orientation of people making a judgement call provokes the "judged" to figure out what works and what doesn't.
    This includes being constantly positive and repressing negatives.
    Even your "negatives" noted to others need to take a positive tone or something the judges can leverage.

    Inherent bias in all makes those who are ambitious and capable to present themselves in the best light.
    They won't hire you until you're experienced.
    So how do you get experienced??
    And to be honest, being inexperienced...means we don't know how things truly work and are going to fuck up. (which is why someone wants experienced...)

    You have to be confident. You have to put yourself out there.
    And at times, you have to claim you can do things...just from your audacity of thinking you can do it.

    I can't tell you how many qualified or even over-qualified people do NOT attempt to move on or forward or up.
    As they say, "You have to be in it, to win it".

    You have to say, "Yeah, I can do that" Or at least be desperate enough to try.

    So, when you're starting from scratch. You've got nothing.
    How do you get something??
    Even if you went to college...their classes and how they taught you don't fully reflect reality.
    And they don't teach you soft skills. (Sales, Management, Customer Service, Leadership...and so on.)

    Yes, we are essentially blowfish...until we develop enough skill to apply our wares.

    And the bosses are just as guilty of setting up the system and participating in it.
    Why do you wear a suit??
    Why do you want a decent looking resume?
    Why do people throw names around?
    Why are you putting on makeup?

    Do these samples make anyone anymore qualified or capable or smarter??
    Face it, people believe in illusions.

    The key is to know your own worth.
    Then put it out there.
    And if you get them to believe you...then make something happen.

    It's all a tap-dance. Even when you have the damn job... :rolleyes:
    What have you done for me lately??
     
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  16. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    The only confidence I have is at work and that's only cause I'm good at what I do. Just years of doing it. I have no confidence in anything else I do.:(
     
  17. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with fake it until you make it... especially if you follow @hamsterball's advice: Humility + Confidence ≠ Arrogance.

    Be able to admit when you don't know something. Build on what you do know and leverage it to the max. Never stop learning.
     
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  18. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Sir, you are funny as hell.
    Be confident in that. :cool:

    Me? I'm confident that I'll say "something". ;)
    You might have noticed...
     
  19. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    In politics, it isn't even referred to as "faking it".

    But I've noticed that those of us who believe in the humility of the public servant tend to last longer and go farther than the ones who are sure they have all the answers.
     
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  20. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    BTW...in a turn of what's necessary to succeed,
    Some "insecurity" is good too.
    Seems everything counts in balance to make your way.


    So remember, be confident, but be insecure too. ;)
     
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