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The 50 Most Dangerous Cities in the World

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Street Pattern, Jan 30, 2014.

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  1. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    Location:
    The American Midwest
    The 50 most dangerous cities worldwide, ranked by murder rate in 2011, according to Business Insider.

    You may not have heard of all these cities, but they each have substantial population.

    I've marked the ones in U.S. territory in large bold.

    The ones in Canada or Europe are ... wait. None of the top 50 most dangerous cities are in Canada or Europe.

    1. San Pedro Sula, Honduras
    2. Juárez, Mexico
    3. Maceió, Brazil
    4. Acapulco, Mexico
    5. Distrito Central, Honduras
    6. Caracas, Venezuela
    7. Torreón (metropolitan area), Mexico
    8. Chihuahua, Mexico
    9. Durango, Mexico
    10. Belém, Brazil
    11. Cali, Colombia
    12. Guatemala City, Guatemala
    13. Culiacán, Mexico
    14. Medellín, Colombia
    15. Mazatlán, Mexico
    16. Tepic (metropolitan area), Mexico
    17. Vitoria, Brazil
    18. Veracruz, Mexico
    19. Ciudad Guayana, Venezuela
    20. San Salvador, El Salvador
    21. New Orleans, United States
    22. Salvador (and RMS), Brazil
    23. Cúcuta, Colombia
    24. Barquisimeto, Venezuela
    25. San Juan, Puerto Rico
    26. Manaus, Brazil
    27. São Luís, Brazil
    28. Nuevo Laredo, Mexico
    29. João Pessoa, Brazil
    30. Detroit, United States
    31. Cuiabá, Brazil
    32. Recife, Brazil
    33. Kingston (metropolitan area), Jamaica
    34. Cape Town, South Africa
    35. Pereira, Colombia
    36. Macapá, Brazil
    37. Fortaleza, Brazil
    38. Monterrey, Mexico
    39. Curitiba, Brazil
    40. Goiânia, Brazil
    41. Port Elizabeth, South Africa
    42. Barranquilla, Colombia
    43. St. Louis, United States
    44. Mosul, Iraq
    45. Belo Horizonte, Brazil
    46. Panama City, Panama
    47. Cuernavaca (metropolitan area), Mexico
    48. Baltimore, United States
    49. Durban, South Africa
    50. Johannesburg, South Africa
     
    Street Pattern, Jan 30, 2014
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  2. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Ah...good old Baltimore.
    You know, when it comes to crime...it's like watching a tennis match between DC and Baltimore. :eek:

    It's definitely not quiet & boring...
     
    rogue49, Jan 30, 2014
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  3. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I guess that the people in Houston are too fat to be overly violent. A little inside joke.
     
    Chris Noyb, Jan 30, 2014
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  4. Katia

    Katia Very Tilted

    Location:
    Earth
    Huh. Been there 19 yrs. ago. Was nice when I was there. Strange that Rio didn't make the cut.
     
    Katia, Jan 30, 2014
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  5. fjmollot

    fjmollot Getting Tilted

    i'm happy to live in Quebec, Canada
     
    fjmollot, Jan 30, 2014
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  6. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Right?

    Toronto, North America's fourth largest city, had 57 homicides last year. Detroit had 333—the city has a quarter the population of Toronto.

    I won't even get into other violent crimes.
     
    Baraka_Guru, Jan 30, 2014
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  7. GeneticShift

    GeneticShift Show me your everything is okay face.

    Location:
    The land of drugs, violence, and 8 Mile Road
    Per capita, Flint is worse.
     
    GeneticShift, Jan 30, 2014
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  8. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    I'm going to start considering everything south of the Canadian border as "South America."

    It's all the same, amiright?
     
    Baraka_Guru, Jan 30, 2014
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  9. GeneticShift

    GeneticShift Show me your everything is okay face.

    Location:
    The land of drugs, violence, and 8 Mile Road
    Hissss.

    I'm farther north than Windsor. I'm in the only place you can look south and see Canada. Pshhh.
     
    GeneticShift, Jan 30, 2014
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  10. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    Surprised we didn't make it...
     
    ralphie250, Jan 30, 2014
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  11. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    It's my understanding that Mexicans don't consider themselves to be Norte Americanos.

    I had no idea (well, some idea) that Toronto was such a safe city; I might have to change my mind about Canadians :D .
     
    Chris Noyb, Jan 30, 2014
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  12. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    Location:
    The American Midwest
    Oops -- forgot to bold St. Louis, and now it's too late to edit.

    No aspersion intended.
     
    Street Pattern, Jan 30, 2014
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  13. omega

    omega Very Tilted

    [quote="Baraka_Guru, post: 190336,]I'm going to start considering everything south of the Canadian border as "South America."

    It's all the same, amiright?[/quote]
    Someday, your country will be full of mexican Canadians.
     
    omega, Jan 30, 2014
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  14. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Someday, your country will be full of mexican Canadians.[/quote]

    ooo...gives new meaning to South of the Border.
    Question...what are Canadian Barritos like? :p


    This would be a different list with more American cities on it, if it was back in the 90's
    But what I understand from Freakonomics, that Rowe vs. Wade changed the course of the growing crime wave in the US.
    That all those unwanted kids, didn't exist anymore to grow up to be adult miscreants... (a terrible thought...but a very real effect)
     
    rogue49, Jan 31, 2014
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  15. Levite

    Levite Levitical Yet Funky

    Location:
    The Windy City
    Something seems a little off about that list.

    Where are all the cities in Syria? Where is Zongo, Lisala, or Boende, in the Democratic Republic of Congo? Mogadishu, Somalia? Where are any of the cities in South Sudan or Libya? Where is Baghdad? Kandahar or Jalalabad, Afghanistan? Peshawar or Quetta, Pakistan? Anywhere in Yemen? Anywhere in the Central African Republic?

    Seems hard to believe that New Orleans, for example, would be more dangerous than Aleppo, Syria. Or that Detroit would be more dangerous than Mogadishu.
     
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  16. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    Location:
    The American Midwest
    Mosul, Iraq is there.

    I'm guessing that nobody keeps crime statistics in Mogadishu. Just another one of those consequences of not having an actual, you know, government.

    Also, the murder rate (three years ago in 2011) is not the only measure of dangerousness. War deaths (e.g., Syria) are not included.

    Some time in the next decade or so, there will be a big earthquake in Tehran, Iran. The city is huge, densely populated, surrounded by major faults, yet too poor and corrupt to have an effective building code. Probably more than a million people will be killed. It is expected to be the deadliest natural disaster in human history.

    The Shah demolished the old city; it was replaced with taller, unreinforced concrete buildings, the kind that collapse when the ground shakes.

    From time to time, the Iranian government mulls moving the capital to a less dangerous part of the country, but that has been all talk/no action for decades.

    You couldn't pay me enough to spend a year in Tehran.

    That makes intuitive sense, but the abortion theory has been debunked, and is no longer taken seriously by social scientists and criminologists.

    If Roe v Wade were a major factor, you'd expect the drop in criminality to be cohort-related, that is, to start with the age group that was born in 1973, and gradually move up through age categories as that generation got older. In fact, the change moved in the opposite direction -- the youngest miscreants lagged, rather than led, the decline.

    (Obviously, the tendency to violence declines after about age 20, but that's not what I'm talking about. Rather, the 1990s crime drop was seen in, say, the proportion of 25-year-olds that committed crimes in a given year, before declines in younger age categories.)

    There's a bunch more reasons. Steven Pinker devotes a section to this issue in his book The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why violence has declined.
     
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  17. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    Hispanic and black culture needs to be changed when it comes to crime. It has happened in some cities here in the US, but there aren't too many cities on there with white gang problems...
     
    ASU2003, Jan 31, 2014
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  18. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Let me get this straight: Canada won't have a Mexican problem. If there is a problem coming, it will be a problem with all those damned illegal Americans coming up here, stealing our jorbs, taking our free healthcare, and ruining our language. And we won't be able to ship them back, because they'll have dubious claims of asylum, and, well, we're Canada.

    And even those so-called legitimate "American-Canadians" will have problems integrating with Canadian society, what, with all their pushing for more liberal gun laws, getting riled up about our particular path of socialism, and filling our parliament with more Tories and fringe libertarian types that will only further destroy our Canadian values.

    Fucking Yanks.... :p


    I think maybe there is a difference between "murder" and "casualties of war" or "collateral damage" in "civil war" or any other war or whatever they call it these days.
     
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  19. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    I'm coming.

    I think my husband has actually been to a couple of those places in Honduras on a mission trip. He said it was an eye-opening experience to go to Honduras. They had to bribe a lot of people while they were there, and there were guns everywhere.
     
    snowy, Jan 31, 2014
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  20. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member



    There are white gang problems, but the Italian and Eastern European gangs are more white collar nowadays, and fly under the radar since the FBI pulled tons of organized crime units and increased terror units. Those guys don't do the 'spray and pray' drive bys or random neighborhood shootings as much as the other gangs, so the public doesn't care as much.


    It is very interesting when you dig into the actual neighborhoods and circumstances of murders in many of the large cities. I saw a blurb back in November that, of Chicago's murders at that point in the year (something like high 300s, low 400s?) there were basically only 3 that were in a non-ethnic neighborhood (I guess that was their PC way of saying "not in the hood") and not committed by a family member or close acquaintance. The point of the article was two-fold. First, that something really needs done in those handful of neighborhoods (economics plays a huge part, as does drug/gang culture). Second, that the murder numbers are deceiving if you think 400+ murders in Chicago means that you are at high risk for a random shooting. It is sad however you frame it. But the reality is that if you are in the "good" neighborhoods, and aren't involved in a domestic situation, statistics skew incredibly towards you being safe.
     
    Borla, Jan 31, 2014
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