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Politics What is happening????

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by pan6467, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

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    What is really unfortunate is that this particular walmart business tactic has been taken up by many other us corporations. The company i work for, the grocery store that my oldest daughter works for as well as Victoria's Secret when my middle daughter worked there all practice this same sub-full time scheduling tactic to avoid paying benefits to their employees. So when you complain about Walmart it's not as simple as pointing out the ethical flaws in their business model. It's that they open the door for more widespread exploitation of the workforce.
     
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  2. My company is playing things this way. It is one of the major reasons I'm getting frustrated with them. It is making staffing my store very difficult. Applicants walk away from either the hours or the wage. Or, I get someone hired in and trained only to have them leave for more money or hours. Often, it's my customers hiring them away, because they see them as reliable and it doesn't take a whole lot to lure them.
     
  3. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Many of these companies will regret their tactics as soon as the job market opens up more.
    There's going to be a big square dance soon.

    The ones that are a commodity will switch to those that pay more and give more benefits.
    Those that are productive will follow.
    Those that have been lingering will follow them.
    Companies will have to scramble to cover.
    Then they'll have to adjust to attract workers back.
    People won't go to companies with bad reps.

    Companies are sitting on a ton of cash, "just in case" ...problem is, just in case is not happening...but business is.
    Mgmt is going to stop being cowardly, especially now that there's a federal budget and the economy at least in North America is buzzin'
    Stability promotes investment.
     
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  4. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    This time, the "what is happening" is more positive.
    Some good news within for a change...and yet, not really in the mainstream media. (of course, it's not bleeding...so it's not leading...:rolleyes:)

    The first two are huge...

     
  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    This is a little bit more than just the economy...this really affects the infrastructure and resources of nations and their citizens,
    this affects global political dynamics...even why some go to war...or why some nations rise & fall.

    And I hope this upset the current oil monopolies and bubbles.
    Because it's been a real pain in the ass for a long time.

    This is going to change things in just 5 years...much less in 20...or over decades.

    And they're not even talking about the Mexico monopoly opening up...or even other resources diving in with their own exporting.

     
  6. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    It's about damn time they started enforcing the laws on the books...and making penalty levels a true pain for billions lost.

    What happened to the conservative mantra, "Do the crime, do the time."

    And should the big banks be broken up?
    There seems to be too much conflict of interest...and centralized power.

    We are slowly flowing to a dystopian society where the corporations rule.
    I don't mind capitalism.
    But I don't want an Umbrella Corporation either.

    Just because someone/something has big pockets...shouldn't mean the law applies differently.

     
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  7. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Oh...and BTW

    This pretty much says it all.
    JPMorgan Profit Drops 7.3% After Madoff Legal Settlements

    And......that's QUARTERLY profit...for a 2.6 billion (with a "B") total for the settlement.

    Uh...and that was only an impact of 10 cents a share.



    Ya think we can go after the other banks yet??
    We can get them used to these "hand slaps"...hell, before this penalties were in the millions...that's not even a paper cut. :rolleyes:
     
  8. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    I'm sorry...I just don't see the banks "struggling to make money" like they indicated in the article.
    Not with the multi-billion dollar quarterly profits I'm seeing.

    Oh...sorry if your stock owners expect you to earn another 10 billion dollars more, just because that matches the percentage gains used for smaller companies.
    Sometimes, things just don't grow at that rate.
    Kind of the reason true giants couldn't exist because they wouldn't be able to support themselves physically.

     
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  9. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    If you don't already know, you might be interested to learn....New Michael Lewis Book on Financial World Will Be Published in March—New York Times
     
  10. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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  11. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    It's not that you can't handle the truth.
    Or that you don't want the truth.

    It's that you're unaware of the truth...numb to it...can't see the forest through the trees...and so on.
    It's just too complicated, too much noise.

    The corruption is there, "just because".
    And those that know...are drowned out
    Or they have their own agenda
    Or they can't go after them.

    Crime does pay...because it isn't a crime.

     
  12. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    It's worth noting that Pennsylvania and New Jersey are both considerably more corrupt than average in the U.S.

    Every U.S. state has its own political culture. Cross a state line, and find a whole different world on the other side, when it comes to practical money things, like building permits or health inspections or labor negotiations or waste disposal or workers comp or paving contracts.

    It's not just government: in a corrupt state, business tends to be corrupt, too. They're all embedded in the same culture and traditions.

    Pennsylvania is an economic backwater today because greed is so ingrained there. Every official expects a bribe. Why start or locate your business in a place like that?
     
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  13. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Class Warfare?? I don't think so...
    Just a bit of bitchin' about things being lop-sided.

    Off with their heads...Nah, I think we've become a bit more civilized since the 1790's and the Reign of Terror.

    If you're so worried about it, how about encouraging your under-management to hire and pay better wages.
    You'd be surprise how that would help...much less encourage the economy even more with purchasing.

    But no, they'd rather be paranoid...and make Nazi references. :eek:
    I tell you...people are idiots...even the rich ones.

    Good news is this...from what I've been seeing on the market...the hiring surge is starting. (Just had to wait until the end of the year to be over...and new budgets to start)

    That, and I'm also starting to hear about job rates which are significantly higher...even from locations that aren't as well known for higher wages.

    So, between the pocket books opening, the hiring, the wages...and the extra competition between recruiting companies...it should finally be a good year for workers.

    And then you rich people can stop worrying your pretty little heads. :rolleyes:
     
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  14. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    Here's another take on that, from Joshua Micah Marshall:

     
  15. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    So let me try to sum it up, @Street Pattern

    So basically we've got a whole group that is like douche-bag Justin Bieber,
    who are scared we're going to take away their Lamborghini for "jealousy" reasons,
    then are surprised that we DO take away their driving privs...when they were street racing...drunk & stoned, (the economy fiasco)
    and offended that we're then monitoring them...and put them on probation... (Frank-Dodd and such)
    and finally they are thinking we might be on them...because we fear their future driving???

    Why am I not shocked?? :mad:
     
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  16. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Too good to pass up... ;)

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  17. hamsterball

    hamsterball Seeking New Outlets

    Man ain't that the truth.
     
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  18. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    The article is a bit longer, so I'll only post a few points: The End of American Exceptionalism - Peter Beinart - The Atlantic


    It then goes into detail about each of these aspects...but more in tune with this thread:
    The article then goes into detail about how a backlash in all three areas may actually be a source of hope, but I'll leave it to you to click the above link to fill in the blanks above and to read the rest of the article.
     
  19. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    I don't know if I agree with that fully, @Baraka_Guru.
    True, there is quite a bit of inequality in the US...and now, the "empires" built on the Middle Class are fading. (or at least are a bit sickly)

    Which I don't know why they'd be shocked...hmm, stop paying people in relative terms to the economy, suck out their savings by crisis or fee'd to death by un-budgeted add-ons to everything,
    then when they stop going out...or purchasing un-needed things...surprise, your revenue goes down...
    This is noted in the most recent article in the NYTimes. - The Middle Class Is Steadily Eroding. Just Ask the Business World.
    Middle mgmt in the US has demolished the Middle class...their lack of investment, skin-flint ways, no growth. (and just profits and stocks aren't growth...there's much more to it)

    But this is not to say that Americans have lost their drive or creativity...nor to say that they are more exceptional than any other.
    I do find, from my own direct experience, they tend to be more ambitious or productive than many...but others are too, Germany, Australia and so on.
    Also they are given ley-way for thinking outside the box more than some, and it is encouraged and expected more...less class based limitations. but others are too...
    It's a combination of subtle factors that has enabled the US to succeed...and this hasn't gone away.

    They're just a bit more under the gun than before...but recently, the pendulum may be swinging back.
    I'm seeing an upsurge in job recruitment...it's just starting.
    I'm also seeing a significant increase in wages being offered, 10-20% more in certain urban areas...and even more so in non-main cities.
    There's going to be a big ol' swing dance this spring and summer.

    Now, mgmt is going to sweat it...as valued employees move on...and they'll need to retrain and increase wages to get in replacements. (either internal or external)
    And many are going to be spending after getting that increase...but it's going to take some time.
    The businesses now suffering from the Middle Class lag...are going to have to figure out how to survive until there is the new swing.
    But hey...the Middle Class did it...they can too.

    And as you see the economy take off again...you'll see even more innovation and R&D invested into.
    The "exceptionalism" isn't gone, it's only being repressed, no resources.
    But the same can be said for Europe and Japan. (What it's like up in Canada, with your own "exceptionalism"), they're a bit stagnant themselves.
    We've all got lags...but this doesn't mean we're dead.
     
  20. redux

    redux Very Tilted

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