Politics Duck Dynasty star's anti-gay remarks

I think Sarah Palin is a complete moron but I don't think suspending Phil from the show is right.
I don't agree with the views that he expressed in that comment but I'm a big boy. I can decide if I still want to watch.
If you don't like his views don't watch the show. Or have the network remove the show from the lineup and another channel can take it on if they desire.

 

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yeah i think they are going to possibly lose the whole show from this overreaction.

 

The issue isn't "Freedom of Speech" or the 1st Amendment. The police didn't bust in and arrest him for saying that.

It has to do with how you can and can't act in Corporate America. Where those in power and who are paying the paychecks get to make the rules. And, I would be in just as much trouble over saying my female co-worker has a "nice ass".

 

Yep, this isn't about free speech, it's about embarrassing your employer. Put Duck Dynasty on Fox and they'd probably give him his own show.

 

pretty much. i could see them losing the whole show over this.. especially with how family oriented the robertson's are. there are many petitions and facebook pages going crazy with A&E boycotts for firing him.

you really think A&E is going to lose any significant audience by allowing him to stay on the show? most of duck dynasty's fans aren't offended at all by what he said.

 

I've never watched the show, but I would have no problem with this statement of his, even in his capacity (whatever that may be) on the show:

I myself am a product of the 60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior. My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.​

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That is a moral position. I might not agree with it, but it is reasonable from a religious perspective.

But when he makes a connection between "homosexual behavior and bestiality" or "gays and terrorists," that is just ignorance and intolerance beyond a moral position on homosexuality. I would not be surprised if many of the show's viewers share those ignorant views.

Damn right, he should be suspended. It sends a message that there is a difference between an acceptable moral position or religious belief and unacceptable ignorance.

 

Her relevance or noise at least is something, but in 20 years she will have the same amount of influence as dan quayle.

 

so you just get to decide what is moral, and what is ignorance and intolerant.... i see.

 

Nope. Facts decide.

Show me the facts that suggests any connection between homosexuality and bestiality or explain to me how being gay would make one a terrorist by any definition.
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Suggesting that one has a First Amendment right to appear on reality TV is also ignorant.

 

so he's getting fired for making a factual error that offended someone. damn, half the reality tv shows today would offend a christian, but they dont get fired, people just change the channel. do all these networks really subscribe to the crap that is on reality tv, sitcoms, etc, and the things they say in the public? alec baldwin can issue anti-gay and racial slurs all day long without getting fired by his networks. i guess things are different if you are on the left.


i never suggested he has a first amendment right to appear on tv. i feel like in the spirit of free speech, corporations should attempt to seperate themselves from it with a disclaimer or public statement. instead they are going to just throw the show away. he was speaking on his personal beliefs, not as a representative of the company A&E. i think that's a huge diff.

 

Not politically, realistically. And where in public would it ever be okay for me or anybody else to go, say, "I'm not racist, I just don't like ____ people." There is no room to "disapprove" of anything these days. We're all equals and even talking about bias makes you a bigot. Please correct me if I'm wrong here. Here's the things you can't talk about unless it's a fluff piece on We Are the World type stuff: gender, religion, race, age, sexual orientation, body fat and socioeconomic strata. Can't. Touch. This.

As far as the whole redneck fowl-blaster debacle, he can say whatever he wants (free country) and they can fire his ass whenever they want (free country). Let's not pretend that TeeVee execs are pillars of morality and recall what was acceptable and unacceptable on TeeVee just 50 years ago. A&E is "taking a stand" about as much as anybody else worried about audience perception and their bottom line. If racism was the in thing, PepsiCo's Mountain Dew would have a flavor called Jungle Fever.

What is "politically correct?" In the words of Potter Stewart, "I know it when I see it."

It is what it is. The goddamn Safety Dance.

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Also, fuck Sarah Palin. She's a prime example of dumb white people doing stupid things.

 

I can look past the fact that nearly half of the American public might believe homosexuality is a sin...based primarily on a selective and literal interpretation of the Bible. Organized religion is often the basis for intolerance, particularly among the more evangelical. But this goes even beyond intolerance to being offensive.

You may not agree that the bestiality comment was over the top. I would hope that even among the many that believe homosexuality is a sin would not agree.

Sarah Palin (and Ted Cruz and others) raised the First Amendment issue demonstrating either their ignorance of the Constitution or their pandering to their base.

As to Robertson's personal beliefs, he has a right to express whatever beliefs he wants, but there are consequences when one is a "public" figure.

And, BTW, Alec Baldwin was fired by MSNBC for his comments.

 

Same logic.

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And, yeah, it would be easy to see how the duck guy thing is nothing but negative marketing ploys and lead-up pumps.

If so, the core issue still remains because the Bible/homo sandwich is still such a hot topic and causes so much hoopla.

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Also:

Why is there no black female and asian male on Duck Dynasty?! Discrimination, that's why.