Politics The Elephant in the room...The GOP today

Great...What are the chances some people are getting paid to DDOS the page by the people who want it to fail... It will still be spun as a government failure by those who hate the government.

 

Stating the obvious

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When the public views your top party priority as "trouble making" rather than making policy, your party is not in a good place​

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OK...its time for me to start lobbying the TFP community

Tweet your member of Congress and demand an end to the government shutdown and a Clean CR Now!



Send a tweet to Congress (congressional twitter directory and tweet message included)
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Or just tell them to "stop being so stupid"

 

Opinion: Taxpayers, you deserve your money back - CNN.com

Well that didn't take long. It's the headline over at CNN.com. The Tea Party idiots are wanting tax refunds because the government is shutdown. It just plays right into their hand. Hey, you baby boomers have spent trillions of dollars, you get to pay the taxes for the rest of your lives, and the estate tax will be making a comeback before most of you are dead.

 

Perhaps we should reflect - how did we get here? Although the Tea Party movement started during the Bush administration, it gained traction as a result of an opposite response to the extreme liberal agenda of Obama, Reid and Pelosi when Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency - including a period of a super majority.

Democrats and Obama forced the Affordable Healthcare Act, without a single Republican vote. A big mistake, they should have gotten some Republican support on a bill of this nature - they needed to give Republicans something so that they had some interest in the success of the legislation. There were some moderate Republican who could have supported some reasonable conservative amendments - i.e. tort reform. As a result the Tea Party gained power and momentum in the 2010 elections and again in 2012. The momentum is still in favor of the Tea Party. Democrats consistently frame their arguments against all Republicans as if they are all the same, all aligned with the Tea Party - a mistake. Every step of the way rather than Democrats and the President working with moderate Republicans, these Republicans were made inconsequential - at a time when the Tea Party is gaining strength. Now the President and Democrats need moderate Republicans - but these Republicans lack courage, they fear the power of the Tea Party, they don't trust the President and Democrats - they are isolated.

It is clear that to the degree that the Tea Party has power today is a result of some failures to address their emergence along the way. regardless of how this chapter plays out, the Tea Party will emerge energized and with more power. How will the rest respond? Establishment Republicans will have no response. the President will continue to blame others, mostly the Tea Party for his failures. Democrats in Congress will continually be on the defensive responding to Tea Party initiatives. The voters will continue to swing in support of the Tea Party. The 2016 Republican primary winner will be aligned with the Tea Party. It will be a close race between the Republican candidate and Clinton. The Republican will win. Republicans will control the House. The Senate will be close to 50/50.

 

The attack of Ted Cruz is not only coming from the left:

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From your perspective perhaps the Tea Party agenda is extreme to the opposite end, from the Tea Party perspective...so, context is important. Who wrote the comment "extreme liberal agenda?" If I divide continuum of political ideologies in thirds on a scale of 1 - 9, to me 1,2 and 3 make up one extreme and 7,8, 9 make up the other. Those who are 3 or 7, may or may not see themselves as extreme, you may not, it is subjective, I do.

 

These folks, many lack the courage to actually go on the record, are coming across as pretty weak. How in the hell does Cruz force them into anything? He is a JR. Senator with one vote in a Senate controlled by the opposing party! I strongly dislike those who lack the strength of their conviction - they are sounding like he President - always someone else's fault. They should act on their true convictions and stop with trying to find scapegoats.
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I think Wall St. gangsters should go to jail too, who doesn't? Why hasn't the Obama justice department been more aggressive in these matters? Or, is what you posted nothing more than populist talking points?

 

I could find numerous examples of extreme right characterizations of many of the points in the graphic.

Support of women's reproductive rights is infanticide.

Support of GLBT rights is anti-family.

Support of a temporary social safety net for working families facing hardship through no fault of their own is providing a hammock that lulls able bodied people into lives of dependency.

Support of environmental regulations makes one a tree hugger who puts endangered snail darts over people.

Support of a pathway to citizenship for undocumented workers, including fines and back payment of taxes, is amnesty.

Support of keeping religion out of government and schools (or not treating all religions equally) is anti-Christian.

Support of sensible gun control, including universal registration, is an infringement on the rights of law abiding citizens.

All of the above are common right wing talking points. I could offer many more.

 

But Ted Cruz has a bunch of Super PACs and a few billionaires funding his crazy delusions of grandeur. Along with the right-wing media bubble, he has become what they wanted him to become. And that is pretty scary to us rational people.

 

It seems to me like the GOP is willing to neg. on the budget but only if that results in killing or delaying Obamacare. So I'm not sure that's really neg. as much as it is demanding.

 

Well the US "advised" a lot of countries not to be communists over the years too. Used millions of gallons of napalm giving that advice.