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I thought this was pretty cool. Homeless man offered choice of $100 or coding classes.

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Borla, Aug 24, 2013.

  1. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    NYC Engineer Wants to Help Homeless Man With Software Coding Classes - Yahoo!






    I think that was a creative and generous offer on McConlogue's part. He obviously was correct in sensing that Leo had some potential and I think he did a pretty cool thing in offering to help him learn to code, let alone giving him the Chromebook and supplies. And he's giving something that is most valuable, his time.

    I was a little surprised that people are criticizing him for this, saying he should give housing to homeless before something like this. Hopefully what Leo learns (and let's be real, from the attention this story may garner) will benefit him enough so that he can land a job and be better equipped to take care of himself. I understand that providing housing for the homeless is a more basic need. But most people in McConlogue's shoes do nothing, or maybe drop some change in a cup on rare occasion to appease themselves. I think it's awesome what he's doing, and I hope it works out for them both.

     
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  2. Fremen

    Fremen Allright, who stole my mustache?

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    What I first thought of when reading that^.

    I think the idea is sound. It's like the "teaching a guy to fish" saying.
    Like in the article, I'm not sure if getting the guy a home first is the best step. With a way to pay his own way, he'll hopefully handle his future better.
    Hope everything turns out well for these two.
     
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  3. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    I would choose to be homeless over coding for someone else again...
     
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  4. Bodkin van Horn

    Bodkin van Horn One of the Four Horsewomyn of the Fempocalypse

    I think it's admirable in the individual case here. But I think criticisms are warranted with respect to attempts to extrapolate this story of individuals into a narrative about homelessness in general. This story feeds into the notion that homeless people should just get off their asses and learn new skills, which ignores the reality of how people become homeless, what services are available to homeless people and whether employers are willing to employ homeless people.

    Plus, there's totally this facile notion amongst the techonorati that technology can solve all problems. Like if we could somehow build an app for homelessness, then it would go away.
     
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  5. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member


    Yeah, this is what I was going to say. It completely ignores structural poverty. We can teach people to fish all we want, but if there are no fish, then what do they eat? Their coding skills? Additionally, there are no SNAP benefits for people without addresses.
     
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  6. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    While I agree that it would be better if we could permanently end homelessness, I think it's admirable that a 23yr old guy is willing to give an hour of training every single working day for two months, and $300-500 worth of goodies to a homeless stranger. It is far more than almost anyone else in society is willing to do. Not a lot of people will give 20-30 hours/month of their time in volunteering.
     
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  7. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    I stumbled across an update to this story today. The classes have went well. Leo is about to publish his first app, which focuses on global warming and the author thinks is a viable app. The day after the interview he was set to have a meeting at Google. He and Patrick have become buddies. I hope he has great success with it. :cool:



    Video: Leo, the homeless coder, speaks.


     
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    Borla Moderator Staff Member

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  9. snowy

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  10. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Awesome.
    You code, you can get paid.
    You design, you can really get paid.

    At a buck a pop...and the news noting it nationally, he'll make some.
    Only question is he can handle it after the fact.

    I think the key is...that he took the help...and then he followed up with it.
    I can tell you quite a few get offered a gift...then don't do anything with it.

    I wish him the best of continuing returns.
    Keep rockin' :cool:
     
  11. Herculite

    Herculite Very Tilted

  12. Spiritsoar

    Spiritsoar Slightly Tilted

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    Is it sad that the first thing that came into my mind as I saw this guy's success is that I know it will cause the commentary "See? This is how the 'insert thing here (church, organization, country) should be helping people, not with all those obama welfare benefits"? It is, it's sad, because I know it's true without even looking.
     
  13. Herculite

    Herculite Very Tilted

    The problem with most approaches dealing with the homeless is they seem to assume that the homeless aspect is due to some external factor and not the fault of the person who is in fact homeless, or as we used to call them "bums".

    Even with mental illness out of the equation, many just make very poor life choices. Learning a skill is great, but I'd guess that most would still continue to make poor life choices.
     
  14. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

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    Arguably there are many people who are not homeless who also make bad life choices. Some just have a bigger safety net than others.
     
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  15. Herculite

    Herculite Very Tilted

    Which is true but what does it matter?
     
  16. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

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    About as much as your comment mattered. Not a bit.
     
  17. Herculite

    Herculite Very Tilted

    Mine was directly related to the idea of teaching a skill to a homeless person as a way to get them "out of the gutter". A lack of skills is not why they are in the gutter.
     
  18. Spiritsoar

    Spiritsoar Slightly Tilted

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    Estimates are that about 40% of homeless men are veterans. So I guess the poor life choice was to serve their country. I won't argue that some poor life choices probably cause people to fall into homelessness, be we don't as a society make it very easy to climb back out of that hole.
     
  19. Herculite

    Herculite Very Tilted

    Joining the military doesn't make one a hero or special, its what you DO in the military that does. I'm not sure where this idea of all military members are "heroes" but it cheapens the meaning of the word. Until the over used "everyone's a hero who serves" meme of the last 10 years, the military was known as a place for lifes losers to go because they wouldn't turn them down and provided all the basics.

    If a guy is homeless because he is a combat vet suffering PTSS then by all means they deserve help from all of us. If the guy was a cook at Fort Polk, then yea whatever.
     
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