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What defines addiction?

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by girldetective, Aug 1, 2013.

  1. girldetective

    girldetective Getting Tilted

    Im on my second margarita in an hour, and Im feeling feisty and posty for better or worse. It occurs to me as I down the beautiful golden junk and smoke a toke that I should consider my intake. What constitutes addiction in your book? What are the fine lines and spider webs we weave? Im not lookin for the DMS-IV dx; thats easy to come by. Instead it might or might not be interesting and beneficial to look at what defines it by our own standards, and how those values might change with knowledge, experiences, or maturity. On the way home from work tonight, NPR (or OPB?) focused on invetors putting $$ into the future of the marijuana industry, in particular in WA state. (However, that begs a whole 'nother post for those hungry to make it to Tilted Exhibition -- look forward to some future post re feds vs states, 0r maybe there already is one.)

    For instance, I think alcohol and marijuana may be medications of choice for many people, and Im not at all sure that I dont believe they know what is/isnt best for themselves. Huh?! In otherwords, I like to trust that people, especially in this rxhappy social construct, know what works and feels best for their own selves, and that they tend to be responsible adults. However, at the same time, I feel protective of the younger crowd and what they are exposed to before they are adults. When does addition come into play?

    Cheers and happiness from the residenthippiegirl, at least for now.
     
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  2. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    What constitutes addiction?
    When you start to wonder if you are addicted.

    um-hm. :)
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    and let me tell you, I have had two instances in the last month after which I thought those same questions to myself. I come from a long line of addicts. Wonderful, interesting, fabulous people but chemically flawed. I grew up around addiction and I always thought myself...different. But I'm not.

    I have too much at stake, so I am backing off a little.
    (weed is a different story.)
     
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  3. World's King

    World's King Vertical

    Location:
    Denver City Denver
    Okay... I'm a recovering addict and alcoholic. I'm working on a good response to this. It's not an easy subject. Many disagree. Stay Tuned Campers... This will be a fun time.
     
  4. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    tenterhooks.
     
  5. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    Addiction is any repetitive or indulgent behavior that negatively impacts your ability to have a life where you can take care of your own basic human needs (and those you are responsible for), keep a job and maintain your relationships with your family/friends. I think most people tend to have those "Whoa, what am I doing?" moments after their addictions damage their desired lifestyle. I'm not sure where you're going with this post so I'll throw out the Dr. Phil Lite version definition.

    My more personal definition of addiction is anybody that gleefully engages in illicit substances. I'm a DARE kid and thus such behaviors leave me all chickenskin. Do what you gotta do--free country meme here--but keep that nasty shit to yourself.

    ...

    Life
    All things in moderation.

    ...​
     
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  6. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Oh, I engage in my behaviors gleefully.

    The question is--when does it seriously impact your daily life? I used to work in the industry--and believe me, there is quite an industry built around addiction and recovery. When are you not engaging in the behaviors you need to in order to take care of yourself? That is addiction, as defined in all of the industry lit I read over that particular year. By and large, addiction tends to be a form of self-medication; people are usually compensating for something else.

    One of the reasons I engage in my behaviors with glee is because I recognize the parts of me that could be self-medicated and are either actually medicated or self-medicated. Self-medication is reasonable at points. It's a question of harm reduction. Alcohol until you're numb--fine once in a while. Marijuana? Manageable if you're over 25. Cocaine? Is that a good idea? Heroin? Not okay. Ever. Ever.

    Harm reduction. It's something I think more people need to get into and understand.

    I'd share more about myself but this ain't Playground.
     
  7. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    It's not a moment, though, it's a process. By the time it is interfering with your life, yes, you might be addicted. Doesn't mean you are not addicted when you are on that path, before you start fucking things up. Just as it does not mean you are not addicted once you've gone into recovery.
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    I could talk more specifically about things elsewhere, as well. ;)
     
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  8. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    If you NEED it.
    And if it's destructive. (in any context...)


    Meaning if it's causing hazard or issue of any shape or form, then you may want to reconsider.
     
  9. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    I can feel how easy it would be to be addicted. There are times where the temptation to just let go is there... My sense of propriety and, more importantly, responsibility always wins out.

    I often wonder if I were tip over the edge if I'd know... the embrace of my appetites hold great appeal.
     
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  10. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
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    That's the thing. I don't think you're gonna necessarily know. Otherwise, I think we'd have a lot fewer addicts in the world. No one wants to surrender control of their life to a substance.
     
  11. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    I'm not so sure about that.
     
  12. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    Which part? Lol
     
  13. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    This part:

    "No one wants to surrender control of their life to a substance."
     
  14. Misguided

    Misguided Vertical

    Location:
    Hyborian age
    It sounds to me that you are talking about legal versus illegal substances. People are addicted to pharmaceuticals, courtesy of their friendly doctors or High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) by the food manufacturers, as well as working out or sex.
     
  15. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    Oh. Well that may be true in some cases, but an awful lot of people go through an awful lot of pain and effort to quit, as well. I just don't think that the transition between 'user' and 'addict' is always clearly delineated.
     
  16. MSD

    MSD Very Tilted

    Location:
    CT
    Can you please describe the clinical presentation of addiction to high fructose corn syrup?
     
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