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Jack Reacher (Lee Child novels)

Discussion in 'Tilted Entertainment' started by DAKA, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. DAKA

    DAKA DOING VERY NICELY, THANK YOU

    Here's a good one, if you read the series of Jack Reacher stories by author Lee Child you'd know that Jack is a big guy....6'-2" 230 pounds....how in hell do they cast that midget talentless actor Tom Cruise to play this big guy.....what a farking joke.
     
  2. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    I think he's even taller, like 6'4". But yeah, a HUGE portion of the character is that he's physically imposing. Casting Tom Cruise is a travesty.
     
  3. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    Jack Reacher is supposed to have a 50" chest as well. Wikipedia also says he's 6'5" and 210 to 250 lbs. Plus ice-blue eyes and dirty blond hair.

    So 6'5", 230 lbs., and a 50" chest is a tough physical role to fill. It limits the options.

    I think casting The Rock would have been worse than Tom Cruise, though he fits the bill at 6'5", 260 lbs., with a chest that likely is near the 50" range. But it's The Rock. (Well, I guess Tom Cruise isn't that much better.)

    Plus The Rock doesn't look nordic enough. :) Perhaps Chris Hemsworth? Hemsworth is ostensibly 6'3" and has a 38" chest. Is that good enough?

    Who else should have been considered for this role?
     
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  4. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    I think The Rock would've been the best one available. The size is far more crucial to the character than being Nordic. Reacher's mother was supposed to be French, and many French people have dark hair and eyes. Or, a change in ethnicity would've been ok. But to have some dude a foot shorter and 100lbs less is just silly IMO.
     
  5. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

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    Dude, I have a bigger chest than that. Is there a major shortage of tall, muscular actors or something? Jeez.

    ...

    Ugh, this reminds me of how disappointed I was when they cast pussy-ass Timothy Hutton as Richard Stark in the celluoid trainwreck that was Stephen King's The Dark Half. The whole point of the The Dark Half was that the evil twin was everything that the good twin wasn't: tall, blond, asshole assertive, built like a comic book Viking, etc. No amount of acting ability can compensate for being built like Dennis the Menace. If the character is supposed to be a hulking beast, you need a hulking beast to play 'em. I mean, you can play with height. They cast the way tall Hugh Jackman as the super stout Wolverine character in those X-men movies. But Jackman is an absolute god in the gym and has the mass to play a cranky superhuman midget with dangerous fingernails. I'm so tired of bad casting in action movies. SEE: Bennett in Commando. Prime example.
     
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  6. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    What if we stretched you to 6'3"? Would you still?

    That 38" measurement is from Hemsworth's agency. It may have been far bigger when he bulked up for his roles as Thor. Did you see him as Thor?
     
  7. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

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    Wow, stretch me a whopping inch and a half? That's what I'm saying... 38" is a joke, especially at 6'3". He's got to be way bigger than that.

    Are you built like a 10 year old boy or something, Baraka? ~6 foot with a ~38" chest is a larger-than-average male but hardly exceptional.
     
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  8. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    Honestly, I didn't really think about the numbers that much.

    Like I said, it was likely before he bulked up. He was just some Aussie surfer pretty boy when he was trying to make it big. They fed him raw beef when they wanted him as Thor.

    Behold:

    PHOTOS: Chris Hemsworth Remarkble Muscular Transformation - Feast of Fun
     
  9. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

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    Pictures definitely do the talking. There is no "may" in the bigger. Guy looks like he threw on another 10 inches in the suit jacket department.
     
  10. I prefer beefy Chris. Mmmmmm beefy.

    Tom Cruise is just not sexy. At all.
     
  11. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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  12. Fremen

    Fremen Allright, who stole my mustache?

    Location:
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    So disappointed in Cruise's selection as Reacher.

    No way can Cruise pick a guy up and believably break his back with his strength alone.
     
  13. DAKA

    DAKA DOING VERY NICELY, THANK YOU

    I'm still AMAZED at whoever chose Cruise for the part...IMHO he is not a good actor, too SHORT for the part and in "looking around" at interviews,
    find Cruise with Matt Lauer, Cruise comes across as a loon!
    I WILL NOT PAY TO SEE THAT MOVIE.......... (*like Cruise cares...but it's a matter of principle)
     
  14. DAKA

    DAKA DOING VERY NICELY, THANK YOU

    I'm still AMAZED at whoever chose Cruise for the part...IMHO he is not a good actor, too SHORT for the part and in "looking around" at interviews,
    find Cruise with Matt Lauer, Cruise comes across as a loon!
    I WILL NOT PAY TO SEE THAT MOVIE.......... (*like Cruise cares...but it's a matter of principle)
     
  15. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    We almost never go to the movie theater. Too much money anymore. By the time you buy two tickets, a large popcorn, two drinks, and maybe one box of candy, it's $40. And half the time the movie is horrible, or someone nearby is distracting, or you have to pee halfway through and can't pause it. :p

    I'm a huge Lee Child fan, so I would probably make an exception for this movie, but the Tom Cruise thing has me irritated. But I'm still considering it......hrrmm. If anyone goes to see it, please let me know their thoughts.
     
  16. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    BEST POST EVER. I don't know anything about the Jack Reacher novels, nor do I particularly care, but Chris Hemsworth...*drool*. That's probably why I missed this post the first time around.
    --- merged: Dec 21, 2012 at 1:24 PM ---
    See, after going to see the Hobbit, I discovered I like going to the movie theater more than watching movies at home. Yeah, it's expensive, but so are a lot of other nights out. The advantage it has over home for me is that there are fewer distractions. I HAVE to pay attention to the movie. We went and saw the Hobbit on Sunday, and the theater was full, but everyone was very respectful and quiet. I didn't have a single complaint about the audience. Of course, I may be immune to such things now after a summer of taking two young boys to the children's movie festival the theater put on--kids are incredibly loud compared to adults, and few parents seemed to want to rein their children in.
     
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  17. DAKA

    DAKA DOING VERY NICELY, THANK YOU

    I will NEVER pay to see a Cruise movie, and to support the MORON who chose the midget for this movie...NOT IN THIS LIFETIME...
     
  18. Cayvmann

    Cayvmann Very Tilted

    First they pick a tall man to play Wolverine ( terribly, I might add ) and now a midget ( even shorter than me ) to play a giant. Fuck Hollywood, just fuck em. These guy's heights/sizes are CENTRAL to their personality and stories.
     
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  19. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    The thing to realize about these kinds of films from books is that they aren't making these films for the readers of the books; they're making them for watchers of films. Films of this calibre must make millions over the millions it takes to make them.

    Next we consider limitations of taking fiction designed with words (and images) and making a fiction designed with real objects and people. Then you consider the limitations imposed with choosing from a limited pool of talent. When you are aiming for blockbuster results, choosing from blockbuster talent limits the pool even more.

    So you take a character like Wolverine from the comics (5'3", 195 lbs. pre-Adamantium, muscular build) and decide who to cast for a blockbuster. How many short muscular actors from the A-list would have been suitable? Are there any? Do you want a short muscular actor for your vision of Wolverine on the big screen?

    Then you take a character like Jack Archer and do the same. We're back to the 50" chest on a guy who's 6'5" and 210 to 250 lbs with ice-blue eyes and dirty blond hair. How many A-listers fit the bill? Do any? See where we're going with this?

    The producers look at the story and toss out the physicality on a lot of things because they're discussing things like, "Can we get Damon for this? What about Cruise? Can we get Cruise?"

    You have to take the bad with the good. The alternative is resorting to fan films. Which are worse.

    I tend to look at film versions of virtually anything as retellings, not scholarly translations. They're called adaptations, which pretty much means "modify to fit a new purpose" (The Lord of the Rings is a good example). That's what's going on. It's Hollywood; it's to be expected.

    If you're a big enough fan, be happy they even made the damn thing. (I hadn't even heard of these books or their author before the film was made.) If you're a purist, then there is no hope either way.

    I'm a fan of Conan the Barbarian (the character, the original stories, not the Schwarzenegger films, which is why I prefer "Conan the Cimmerian"). I went to go see the lastest film in the theatre enthusiastically. I had fun. Was it good? Good enough for the sword & sorcery genre. What is Conan? In a form. Was it true to the character, world, and mythos of Conan? Gods no. In that respect, by Crom, it was a dog's breakfast! Horrific.
     
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  20. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

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    I never read the books, so Tom worked fine for me in the movie.

    I would have avoided it like the plague had they chosen The Rock for the part. The man can't act - he can't even act poorly.
     
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