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RUN. HIDE. FIGHT.

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Craven Morehead, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. I hate that videos like this need to be made but sadly there is that need.



    This video was rushed to 'market' following the Colorado shooting this summer.
     
  2. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    It's the duck-and-cover of this day and age, I feel like.

    But still, it's better to be prepared. When I am in an enclosed space, I am aware of where the exits are and how to get out. The hiding part is something I've practiced a lot in lockdown drills. The state requires childcare facilities to practice an earthquake drill or a lockdown drill every month (in addition to a fire drill). One of the first things I do when entering a classroom is evaluate where the best location for students to be in in the event of a lockdown.

    I hope this never happens, that I never need to use what I've practiced, but at the same time I know that the practice will mean that if it does happen, I'll have more to rely on than instinct.
     
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  3. Duck and cover. Thanks for the reminder, I am from that age. Yes, good analogy.
     
  4. EventHorizon

    EventHorizon assuredly the cause of the angry Economy..

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    we do something similar at my home/school/prison. lock doors. lights off. lay on ground. the only difference i think is that if the dude comes into our room, we're to rush his ass regardless of how many and multivaried calibur rounds we eat
     
  5. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I believe that's also what the video suggests when the running and hiding options are not available.

    Rush him and overwhelm him.
    Range of outcomes:
    Some get shot. Some die.
    All get shot. All die.
    No one gets shot. No one dies.

    Remain crouched in a corner, under a table, etc
    Most Likely outcomes:
    Some get shot. Some die
    All get shot. All die.

    The rushing bit has better odds but I suppose it's easier said than done for those who might find themselves in that position.
     
  6. EventHorizon

    EventHorizon assuredly the cause of the angry Economy..

    Location:
    FREEDOM!
    i meant that we're expected to is the part that i find funny. that puts an image in my head of someone getting yelled at for not rushing homicidal maniac
     
  7. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    To be honest, if I was one of a few other adults in a room full of children, I would expect all of us to rush him in the hopes of sparing the lives of some of the children. I like to think it would be an automatic reaction, as it appears to be for so many adults in these situations. Being a mother, I suspect I would react to save the children in my care before my own survival sense kicked in.

    If there were no children. I can't say what I would do. I probably wouldn't be giving any consideration to what I was expected to do. Given the opportunity I imagine I would be attempting to control the rising panic within me so I could assess the situation and figure out what, if anything, I could do.
     
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  8. I've thought about this, what I would do. Actually since 9-11 and the plane that crashed in Shanksville PA. I think I would fight but until I'm confronted with a situation like this I will never know. And I hope I never find out.
     
  9. i think this video is as essential as watching the emergency procedures on every plane trip you go on.

    Thanks for posting Craven Morehead
     
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  10. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    My former colleagues and I would discuss this after practicing lockdowns at the preschool. What would we do? Oh, you bet we would go out fighting. We thought of all manner of improvised weapons. I can't imagine bleach water to the eyes would feel good, for example.
     
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  11. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    This is part of the reason why I'm considering switching from muay thai to hapkido (possibly by this summer). Hapkido is to a large extent a South Korean version of jujitsu. It involves, among other things, joint locks, pressure point attacks, and throws to take down an opponent. There is also weapons training, which includes both traditional and improvised weapons.

    I've seen demonstrations of effective ways to immobilize someone quite readily with a broom handle. I've also seen techniques using a rolled-up newspaper to disarm someone .

    I know guns are different, but many aggravated assaults in Canada are from unarmed attackers or with something other than a gun. In all violent crimes, for example, the attacker will be about three times more likely to have a knife than a gun. Even with murder, the attacker will just as likely be using a knife as a gun.

    Even while hiding in the rooms of an office building with a gun-wielding maniac, having some mad skills as a last resort for taking someone down is better than nothing.
     
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  12. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    I honestly think asking teachers to train in martial arts would be much more effective than arming them.
     
  13. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    I've heard that hapkido is taught to certain police forces as a means of close range and unarmed/baton self-defense. It's because the focus is on disarming or otherwise rendering the opponent immobilized (or neutralized, if you will). I think judo and akido are employed in the same capacity.

    I think there would be a number of applications for teachers and other public servants to have this kind of training. One main benefit is that it's a self-defense that can be used without injuring your opponent. This would be good for teachers who don't want to hurt students who assault them.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2012
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