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War on Christmas

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by redux, Nov 22, 2012.

  1. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    It makes baby Jesus cry.
     
  2. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    Nah. It makes him go commando.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. Bodkin van Horn

    Bodkin van Horn One of the Four Horsewomyn of the Fempocalypse

    I remember when the tfp used to have the types of members who'd actually argue that there was a war on Christmas.

    **memories**

    The loss is palpable.
     
  4. Levite

    Levite Levitical Yet Funky

    Location:
    The Windy City
    I tend to agree. The idea of a "war on Christmas" is ludicrous, when Christmas stuff is absolutely everywhere-- one can't get away from it. I actually didn't even realize just how saturatingly pervasive it really is until the year I lived in Jerusalem. When December came around, and there was no Christmas music blasting everywhere, no huge sales, no Santas everywhere...man, was that nice....

    I guess I don't really care too much that Christians get a lot of public space for Christmas-- they really only have two big holidays, and one's always on Sunday. But it can be a little much to take. Still, most Christians I know are pretty good about it all, and are just as fed up with commercialism crassing out their holiday as I would be if it were my holiday.

    But I am irritated as all fuck by the fact that in my experience, the same folks who tend to get up in arms about the "war on Christmas" and shit like that are incredibly condescending to non-Christians-- at best. I can't tell you how many times I've heard folks of this sort refer to Chanukah as "the Jewish Christmas," or, when they wish me a Merry Christmas in such a way as to make me respond that I don't celebrate Christmas (usually I just smile and say, "same to you," but there's a certain way these kinds of people do it that is just so grating....) they either look at me like I just ate a baby, or (I kid you not) say"Oh, what a shame!" Or they give me a fake smile and say stuff like, "Well have a nice whatever it is you folks celebrate," or even "Well, have a nice...whatever."

    And I am rock solid about keeping the Christmas stuff out of public schools and out of public parks and government buildings. And no, it doesn't make it better to have the tree and the Nativity with a menorah standing there too, because I don't want to be foisting the symbols of my religious celebrations on other people. Just because you can manage to put something Jewish or even something Muslim up there doesn't mean that you're not still shafting the Sikhs or the Hindus or someone else. Freedom of religion has got to mean separation between religion and state. Private citizens want to drag out their houses in flashing lights and fake tinsel like the whorehouse district of Santa's Village, that's their prerogative. But public spaces are not just yours, they're mine too, and they also belong to that Rasta guy, and the dude in the turban, and those Native Americans, and those Wiccan chicks, and yes, those nice atheists down the block who don't put up bigass neon decorations on whatever day is important to them, letting the neighborhood know how delighted they are not to believe in God.

    /rant
     
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  5. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    My own War on Chanukah rant.

    Daughter couldnt come home for Chanukah this year. The school closes for Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur, but this is finals week, so no family Chanukah.

    Yes, Chanukah is the most secular of Jewish holidays, but I say stop the War on Chanukah...let my daughter go!
     
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  6. Levite

    Levite Levitical Yet Funky

    Location:
    The Windy City
    LOL! You rock, dude!

    And nice going on your daughter going to New School!
     
  7. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    She's loving the school, the city, the works!

    Whats cool about New School is the opportunity to get a double degree by taking courses at Parsons (yes, it offers more than just fashion design) at the same time.

    I expect nice Chanukah presents when I am older and grayer!
     
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  8. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
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  9. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
  10. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
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  11. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    Let's see Bill O'reilly go after the workaholic consumers who are really the problem with the Christmas holiday fading. It would be much nicer to have three weeks off around Christmas time to spend with family, relaxing, and not acting like 5 year olds for new presents.

    The manger moving from the courthouse to the church isn't that big of a deal...
     
  12. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
  13. is this like declaring a jihad against christmas?

    im handing out fatwas. $25 a pop.
     
  14. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Woah, what? American dollars?
     
  15. Alistair Eurotrash

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I'll do them for 15 bucks. Get 'em while they're hot!
     
  16. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I'll take those fatwa's on fer free. Wait. Who am I fatwaing again?

    Oh yeah. Baby Jesus is history.
     
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  17. Alistair Eurotrash

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I'll take 25,000 please.

    That's kept her busy.

    Now, as I was saying ...
     
  18. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I have at least 25,000 ways to wage war on Christmas. Do you need a business plan?
     
  19. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Do the fatwas come with hummus, or is that extra?
     
  20. Alistair Eurotrash

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    Thank you for your enquiry, Mr Guru.

    My fatwas will be written in the font of your choice and come with baklava (sample, full packs available, price on request).

    Hummus can be provided, on request. Please contact me with detailed requirements for pricing options.

    Your personally-tailored fatwa will provide a ruling on any issue you choose and will be written in clear, simple language using no more than 200 words.

    This offer is for a limited time period (may end 0n 21st December 2012)

    All fees to be paid in advance. Fast Fatwas International, Inc (c). Finance available (200% APR) ... yeah, we know there is an inherent contradiction there, but we don't care.Please note that fatwa writing may be subcontracted to Joniemack Enterprises (but the baby jesus stuff will be crossed out, we promise)..
     
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